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'We're Uncomfortable in Our Own Locker Room.' - We're FORCED to Share Changing Room With a MALE Transgender & 'HER' MALE Genitals - Lady Swimmers

Lia Thomas' UPenn teammate tells how the Trans Swimmer doesn't always cover up her MALE Genitals when changing and their concerns go ignored by their coach

One of Lia Thomas' teammates tells DailyMail.com they feel uncomfortable sharing a locker room with the transgender UPenn swimmer

'It's definitely awkward because Lia still has male body parts and is still attracted to women,' she said

The swimmer said that multiple teammates have raised their concerns with their coach, trying to get Thomas ousted from the female locker room

'We were basically told that we could not ostracize Lia by not having her in the locker room and that there's nothing we can do about it,' she said

The teammate added that Thomas appears to enjoy all the attention and said it affects the team more than it does her

Thomas previously competed on UPenn MEN's swim team for three years as Will before transitioning in 2019


Daily Mail UK. 28 JAN 2022.










Thomas' teammate said, 'It's really upsetting because Lia doesn't seem to care how it makes anyone else feel. The 35 of us are just supposed to accept being uncomfortable in our own space and locker room for, like, the feelings of one' ...






Multiple swimmers have raised it, multiple different times,' the UPenn swimmer said. 'But we were basically told that we could not ostracize Lia by not having her in the locker room and that there's nothing we can do about it.' UPenn women's swimmers and divers relax at the beach in January 2020. Lia Thomas is circled...



Sharing a locker room with transgender swimmer Lia Thomas has become a point of contention for some of her University of Pennsylvania teammates, who feel uncomfortable changing in the private space with someone undergoing gender transition, the DailyMail.com can reveal.








Thomas previously competed on UPenn men's swim team for three years as Will before transitioning in 2019 (pictured in 2016 and 2017, respectively)



'It's definitely awkward because Lia still has male body parts and is still attracted to women,' one swimmer on the team told DailyMail.com in an exclusive interview.


Lia has told her teammates that she dates women.

While Lia covers herself with a towel sometimes, there’s a decent amount of nudity, the swimmer said. She and others have had a glimpse at her private parts.


She stated that team members have raised their concern with the coach, trying to get Thomas ousted from the female locker room, but got nowhere.

'Multiple swimmers have raised it, multiple different times,' the UPenn swimmer said. 'But we were basically told that we could not ostracize Lia by not having her in the locker room and that there's nothing we can do about it, that we basically have to roll over and accept it, or we cannot use our own locker room.'

'It's really upsetting because Lia doesn't seem to care how it makes anyone else feel,' the swimmer continued. 'The 35 of us are just supposed to accept being uncomfortable in our own space and locker room for, like, the feelings of one.'



One of Lia Thomas' teammates tells DailyMail.com they feel uncomfortable sharing a locker room with the transgender UPenn swimmer. 'It's definitely awkward because Lia still has male body parts and is still attracted to women,' she said


Thomas' teammate said, 'It's really upsetting because Lia doesn't seem to care how it makes anyone else feel. The 35 of us are just supposed to accept being uncomfortable in our own space and locker room for, like, the feelings of one'

She said UPenn's handling of the locker room issue is emblematic of the school's overall approach to the Lia Thomas controversy, with school bending over backwards to make Thomas feel welcome without seeming to care how it affects her teammates.


She stated that team members have raised their concern with the coach, trying to get Thomas ousted from the female locker room, but got nowhere.





Coach Mike Schnur is pictured



She stated that team members have raised their concern with the coach, trying to get Thomas ousted from the female locker room, but got nowhere. Coach Mike Schnur is pictured

'The school was so focused on making sure Lia was okay, and doing everything they possibly could do for her, that they didn't even think about the rest of us,' the teammate told DailyMail.com.

'It just seems like the women who built this program and the people who were here before Lia don't matter. And it's frustrating because Lia doesn't really seem to be bothered by all the attention, not at all. Actually she seems like she enjoys it. It's affected all of us way more than it's affected her.'

The school released a terse statement last month that it was offering mental health services to student-athletes.

Thomas, 22, plans to break her longtime silence and exclusively share her story with Sports Illustrated, it was announced Wednesday.

The NCAA, which set rules allowing transgender athletes to compete after completing a year of hormone therapy, recently washed its hands of the row, announcing that transgender participation will now be determined by each sport's national governing body.

In Thomas' case, this would fall under USA Swimming, which is considering a new policy.

'USA Swimming firmly believes in inclusivity and the opportunity for all athletes to experience the sport of swimming in a manner consistent with their gender identity and expression,' USA Swimming stated last week.

'We also strongly believe in competitive equity, and, like many, are doing our best to learn and educate ourselves on the appropriate balance in this space.'


The swimmer who spoke with DailyMail.com welcomed USA Swimming's involvement.

'I'm actually happy that the NCAA passed the buck because USA Swimming is more conservative and they have stakes in the game,' she said. 'These are people who swam their whole lives, who have kids and daughters who swim, and they see what this is doing to the swim community.'









Lia Thomas: Watch till the end to see how unfair it really is.





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US Unveils New Policy For Elite Transgender Swimmers

US competitive swimming's governing body has updated its policy on the eligibility of transgender athletes.

BBC News 2 FEB. 2022.








The new policy sets criteria for transgender athletes in elite swimming events


A three-person medical panel will now determine whether "prior physical development of the athlete as a male" gives transgender swimmers an unfair advantage, USA Swimming says.

There will also be testosterone tests for 36 months before competitions.

It comes as a transgender Pennsylvania university athlete has been smashing female swimming records.

The new policy was released on Tuesday and is effective immediately.

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In a statement, USA Swimming said it "has and will continue to champion gender equity and the inclusivity of all cisgender and transgender women and their rights to participate in sport, while also fervently supporting competitive equity at elite levels of competition".


The policy for elite athletes, it said, "acknowledges a competitive difference in the male and female categories and the disadvantages this presents in elite head-to-head competition".

USA Swimming cited data showing that the top-ranked female athlete in 2021 would on average be ranked below 536th on male events that year.

The new policy "relies on science and medical evidence-based methods to provide a level-playing field for elite cisgender women", USA Swimming said.

They added that the policy serves "to mitigate the advantages associated with male puberty and physiology".




Lia Thomas finished 38 seconds ahead of her second-place teammate at a competition last December


The policy update comes amid controversy over University of Pennsylvania transgender swimmer Lia Thomas, who competed on the men's team for three seasons before starting hormone replacement therapy in spring 2019.

She has shattered records for her university swim team, posting the fastest time of any female swimmer.

At a meeting in Ohio in December, Ms Thomas qualified for the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) championships finishing 38 seconds ahead of her second-place teammate.

On Tuesday, Ms Thomas' teammates released a statement supporting her.

"As members of the Penn Women's Swimming and Diving team and teammates of Lia Thomas, we want to express our full support for Lia in her transition," the team members said in a statement provided to US media.

"We value her as a person, teammate, and friend," they said, pushing back against anonymous statements to the press, which they said were "not representative of the feelings, values, and opinions of the entire Penn team, composed of 39 women with diverse backgrounds".

According to ESPN, it is unclear how many teammates supported the unsigned letter.

Ms Thomas has declined to speak publicly about the controversy, giving only one interview to the SwimSwam podcast.

"It's not healthy for me to read it and engage with it at all, and so I don't, and that's all I'll say on that," she said.

Families of students on the team have spoken out, with one anonymous parent recently telling the Washington Post:
"There is no chance this year. They train hard but know that they cannot beat Lia."

Last month, parents sent a letter to the NCAA, demanding the rules be changed for transgender swimmers.




Ex-swimmer Sharron Davies on why she opposes transgender athletes in women's sports


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WORLD Fina BARS Transgender Swimmers From Women's Elite Events if They Went Through Male Puberty

Fina, swimming's world governing body, has voted to stop transgender athletes from competing in women's elite races if they have gone through any part of the process of male puberty.


BBC News 20 JUN 2022.






Fina will also aim to establish an 'open' category at competitions for swimmers whose gender identity is different than their birth sex.


The new policy, which was passed with 71% of the vote from 152 Fina members, was described as "only a first step towards full inclusion" for transgender athletes.

The 34-page policy document says that male-to-female transgender athletes could compete in the women's category - but only "provided they have not experienced any part of male puberty beyond Tanner Stage 2 [which marks the start of physical development], or before age 12, whichever is later".

The decision was made during an extraordinary general congress at the ongoing World Championships in Budapest.

It means that transgender American college swimmer Lia Thomas, who has expressed a desire to compete for a place at the Olympics, would be blocked from participating in the female category at the Games.

However, the policy does not apply to national federations or the US college championships, the NCAAs, at which Thomas recently won in the 500-yard freestyle. Instead, each national federation - including British Swimming - will need to decide if it is to implement the Fina policy.

Earlier, Fina members heard a report from a transgender task force made up of leading figures from the world of medicine, law and sport.

"Fina's approach in drafting this policy was comprehensive, science-based and inclusive, and, importantly, Fina's approach emphasised competitive fairness," said Brent Nowicki, the governing body's executive director.

Fina president Husain Al-Musallam said the organisation was trying to "protect the rights of our athletes to compete" but also "protect competitive fairness".

He said: "Fina will always welcome every athlete. The creation of an open category will mean that everybody has the opportunity to compete at an elite level. This has not been done before, so Fina will need to lead the way. I want all athletes to feel included in being able to develop ideas during this process."

Former Great Britain swimmer Sharron Davies, who has argued against transgender participation in women's elite swimming, told BBC Sport she was "really proud of Fina".

"Four years ago, along with 60 other Olympic medallists, I wrote to the IOC (International Olympic Committee) and said 'Please just do the science first' and no governing body has done the science until now," she said.

"That is what Fina has done. They've done the science, they've got the right people on board, they've spoken to the athletes, and coaches.

"Swimming is a very inclusive sport, we love everyone to come and swim and be involved. But the cornerstone of sport is that it has to be fair and it has to be fair for both sexes."

Asked whether Fina's policy left trans athletes "in limbo" while they waited for an open category to be created, Davies praised Fina for having conversations around trans inclusion that should have "happened five years ago".

"Sport by definition is exclusionary - we don't have 15-year-old boys racing in the under-12s, we don't have heavyweight boxers in with the bantamweights, the whole reason we have lots of different classes in the Paralympics is so that we can create fair opportunities for everybody," she said.

"So that is the whole point of having classifications in sports and the only people who were going to be losing out were females - they were losing their right to fair sport."

Ex-GB swimmer Karen Pickering told BBC Radio 4: "I empathise that there will be people who now can't compete in the category that they identify with as their gender. That is very sad and I do understand that, but in this situation inclusivity and fairness cannot be compatible and the science has shown that there is just no way to make that compatible."

However, 'Athlete Ally' - an LGBT advocacy group which organised a letter of support for Thomas in February, called the new policy "discriminatory, harmful, unscientific and not in line with the 2021 IOC principles".

"The eligibility criteria for the women's category as it is laid out in the policy polices the bodies of all women, and will not be enforceable without seriously violating the privacy and human rights of any athlete looking to compete in the women's category," said Anne Lieberman, the group's director of policy and programmes.

Australia's four-time Olympic champion Cate Campbell had addressed Fina before the decision was made, asking the governing body to "uphold the cornerstone of fairness".

However, fellow Australian swimmer Maddie Groves has criticised Campbell's comments, asking if she was "OK with ostracising an already maligned group".

"There are already gender diverse people in swimming and I'm guessing they're not feeling very accepted right now," Groves said on Twitter

Swimming follows cycling in rule change


Fina's decision follows a move on Thursday by the UCI, cycling's governing body, to double the period of time before a rider transitioning from male to female can compete in women's races.

The issue in swimming has been catapulted into the spotlight by the experiences of American Thomas.

In March, Thomas became the first known transgender swimmer to win the highest US national college title with victory in the women's 500-yard freestyle.

Thomas swam for the Pennsylvanian men's team for three seasons before starting hormone replacement therapy in spring 2019.

She has since broken records for her university swimming team.

More than 300 college, Team USA and Olympic swimmers signed an open letter in support of Thomas and all transgender and non-binary swimmers, but other athletes and organisations have raised concerns about trans inclusion.

Some of Thomas' team-mates and their parents wrote anonymous letters supporting her right to transition, but added it was unfair for her to compete as a woman.

USA Swimming updated its policy for elite swimmers in February to allow transgender athletes to swim in elite events, alongside criteria that aim to reduce any unfair advantage, including testosterone tests for 36 months before competitions.

Last year, weightlifter Laurel Hubbard from New Zealand became the the first openly transgender athlete to compete at an Olympics in a different sex category to that in which they were born.

Schuyler Bailar - the first transgender athlete to compete for an NCAA division one men's swimming team - was one of the swimmers to sign the open letter.

Speaking on social media about Fina's policy, he said: "This is not about preserving fairness, it is not about protecting women's sports.

"It is about trying to exclude trans people and it continues the policing of women's bodies and sports, it continues the degradation and othering of trans people."


What Did The Panel of Experts Say?

Dr Michael Joyner, a physiologist and leading expert in human performance

"Testosterone in male puberty alters the physiological determinants of human performance and explains the sex-based differences in human performance, considered clearly evident by age 12.

"Even if testosterone is suppressed, its performance enhancing effects will be retained."

Dr Adrian Jjuuko, an activist, researcher and lawyer

"The policy emphasises that no athlete is excluded from Fina competition or setting Fina records based on their legal gender, gender identity or gender expression.

"[The proposed open category] should not become a category that adds to the already existing levels of discrimination and marginalisation against these groups.

"I see this policy as only the first step towards full inclusion and support for the participation of transgender and gender-diverse athletes in aquatic sports, and there is a lot more to be done."

Dr Sandra Hunter, an exercise physiologist specialising in sex and age differences in athletic performance

"By 14 years or older, the difference between boys and girls is substantial. That's due to the advantages experienced due to the physiological adaptations in testosterone and the possession of the Y chromosome.

"Some of these physical advantages are structural in origin such as height, limb length, heart size, lung size and they will be retained, even with the suppression or reduction of testosterone that occurs in the transition from male to female."

Summer Sanders, former Olympic and world champion in swimming

"This is not easy. There must be categories - women's, men's and of course a category for trans women and trans men.

"Fair competition is a stronghold and staple of our community - this approach safeguards the integrity of the existing sports process in which millions of girls and women participate annually."


One of Sport's Biggest Debates

The conversation around the inclusion of transgender women in women's sport has divided opinion both inside and outside the sporting sphere.

Many argue transgender women should not compete in women's sport because of any advantages they may retain - but others argue sport should be more inclusive.


World Athletics president Lord Coe has said the "integrity" and "future" of women's sport would be "very fragile" if sporting organisations get regulations for transgender athletes wrong.

British Prime Minister Boris Johnson said in April he did not believe transgender women should compete in female sporting events.



On Sunday, culture secretary Nadine Dorries told radio station LBC she would "encourage other sports" to follow Fina's lead and that "fairness should always trump inclusion as a principle".

The heart of the debate on whether transgender women athletes should compete in women's sport involves the complex balance of inclusion, sporting fairness and safety - essentially, whether trans women can compete in female categories without giving them an unfair advantage or presenting a threat of injury to competitors.

Trans women have to adhere to a number of rules to compete in specific sports, including in many cases lowering their testosterone levels to a certain amount, for a set period of time, before competing.

There are concerns, however, as highlighted in Fina's decision, that athletes retain an advantage from going through male puberty that is not addressed by lowering testosterone.




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