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Ladybbird · 16-11-23, 04:26

How Much Prison Time Could TRUMP Get?,,, It's Complicated ...

- 641 Years Behind Bars? No, But TRUMPs’ Risk of Prison is Real.

Of The More Than SIX Dozen Felonies That TRUMP is Accused of, Many of Others, Often Result in Harsh Sentences

AP/Politico 16 NOV 2023

Trump now faces 78 felony charges across three criminal cases — many of them carrying the potential for hefty prison time.

If Trump were convicted on all counts and given the maximum statutory penalty for each one, he would face a whopping 641 years in prison.

And that’s not counting additional criminal charges he may face in Georgia, where the district attorney in Fulton County may be on the verge of indicting him this month.

But the reality of any prison term that Trump could plausibly receive is far more complicated.

In both state and federal courts, judges have wide latitude in sentencing. None of the crimes Trump has been charged with carry a mandatory minimum sentence, and defendants with no prior criminal record — a status that, at least for now, applies to Trump — rarely receive the maximum. And if the 77-year-old former president were convicted of multiple counts within the same case, any sentences for those counts might run simultaneously, rather than being stacked on top of each other.

More broadly, sending Trump to prison could raise unprecedented practical and legal issues that would be on any judge’s mind. For one thing, there is the extraordinary logistical challenge of jailing a former president who is entitled to around-the-clock Secret Service protection. For another, there is the potential constitutional crisis that could ensue if Trump were re-elected to the White House in 2024 and then ordered by a judge to serve out a prison term.

Those concerns aside, some of the felonies Trump is accused of — particularly in the two federal cases brought by special counsel Jack Smith — routinely entail significant sentences. Legal experts anticipate that Smith’s team, if they obtain convictions against Trump, will seek substantial prison time in both cases they have brought, one involving his retention of classified documents and the other involving his bid to overturn the 2020 election.

Trump himself has even touted the threat of a significant prison sentence in recent fundraising emails, with his campaign and a PAC saying in late July, “While my primary opponents continue to take cheap swipes at me as the Department of Justice plots ways to throw me in JAIL for up to 561 YEARS, I am asking YOU to stand with me at this pivotal moment in the election.”

The charges that might carry the most severe penalties for Trump involve obstruction of justice. In both federal cases, Smith has accused him of violating various provisions of the federal statutes that prohibit obstructing official proceedings or obstructing investigations. All of the obstruction charges — which include allegedly impeding the government’s attempts to retrieve the classified documents and disrupting the Jan. 6, 2021, session of Congress — have a 20-year maximum sentence.

While Trumps’ lack of a criminal record could weigh in favor of a sentence much lower than that, prosecutors might argue that so-called aggravating factors — like Trump’s alleged efforts, in both cases, to pressure others to commit crimes — support a stiffer term.

Trumps’ willingness, or lack thereof, to accept responsibility if convicted also would play a role in a judge’s sentence.

Judge Tells TRUMP He Could Face More Than 50 Years in Prison If Convicted On All Counts

Could Donald Trump Go to Prison? - BBC News

TRUMP Prison Sentence Could Create a Security Nightmare

Ladybbird · 23-01-24, 10:14

Is Donald Trump Going to Prison? TRUMP Lawyer Says YES and Resigns

Joe Tacopina, one of the attorneys representing TRUMP in his Manhattan hush money case, has withdrawn from TRUMPS' legal team.

TRUMP has 'extremely high' chance of being convicted in 2024, former US prosecutor says

MSNBC 23 JAN 2024

Glenn Kirschner, a US attorney with 30 years of trial experience, said he believed that in at least two cases, the judge and prosecution team "understand the need to punish this kind of wrongdoing".

Trump faces 91 charges across four criminal trials. While he is not expected to face all four in 2024, some trial dates have been set. The first is 4 March for his alleged role around the January 6 insurrection.

In that prosecution in Washington DC, he faces four criminal counts related to an attempt to stay in power after the 2020 election: conspiracy to violate civil rights, conspiracy to defraud the government, the corrupt obstruction of an official proceeding and conspiracy to perpetrate that obstruction.

Glenn Kirschner told Sky News: "I think the odds of a conviction are extremely high. It's important to recognise who the witnesses are against Donald Trump. These are not Donald Trump's enemies or opponents, these are not angry Democrats.

"Interestingly, the people we know are likely to be on the witness list are almost exclusively Republicans. Some of them are his own former cabinet members, his former attorney-general, his former vice president.

I believe the testimony we will see will come from a chorus of Republican voices. It makes it much more difficult for Donald Trump, a fellow Republican, to say 'they're all out to get me'."

Trump-Linked Attorneys at Risk of Losing Law Licenses

Trump is The First Candidate to Ever Campaign For HIS Right to Commit Any Crime

Ladybbird · 20-04-24, 03:31

Completely UNHINGED TRUMP THREATENS Obama, Bush and Biden Are in BIG Trouble' If His Six Dozen Legal Troubles DON'T Vanish

---(Trump still thinks he’s running against Obama)

TRUMP Jumps Up and Lashes Out at Judge After He Announces Trial Will Start on Monday

---Reporter Describes Moment Judge Told TRUMP to SIT DOWN

The US Supreme Court Will Hear Arguments Next Week in Trumps' Immunity Appeal

MSNBBC 20 APR 2024

Donald Trump rattled off a series of crazy social media posts demanding presidential immunity and threatening his predecessors before heading into the fourth day of his criminal trial Friday.

The U.S. Supreme Court will hear arguments next week in Trump's appeal of his Washington, D.C., election subversion case, in which he claims to have broad immunity as a former president, and he issued what sounded like a threat to prosecute his immediate predecessors and his chief Democratic rival Joe Biden.

"If a President does not have Immunity, the Opposing Party, during his/her term in Office, can extort and blackmail the President by saying that, 'if you don’t give us everything we want, we will Indict you for things you did while in Office,' even if everything done was totally Legal and Appropriate," Trump posted on Truth Social.

"That would be the end of the Presidency, and our Country, as we know it, and is just one of the many Traps there would be for a President without Presidential Immunity."

"Obama, Bush, and soon, Crooked Joe Biden, would all be in BIG TROUBLE. If a President doesn’t have IMMUNITY, he/she will be nothing more than a 'Ceremonial' President, rarely having the courage to do what has to be done for our Country," the former president added. "This is not what the Founders had in mind! Protect Presidential Immunity. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!"

Trump has previously threatened to have Biden indicted if he wins a second term in the White House, although presidents don't have that authority, and has often called for the jailing of his political opponents dating back to his 2016 campaign against Hillary Clinton.

"If immunity is not granted to a president, every president that leaves office will be immediately indicted by the opposing party," Trump posted in all-caps. "Without complete immunity, a president of the United States would not be able to properly function."

Trump has been indicted by grand juries on 91 felony counts in four jurisdictions, including Manhattan, where he faces 34 charges related to the alleged falsification of business records to conceal his hush money payment to porn actress Stormy Daniels shortly before the 2016 election.

"Without Presidential Immunity, the Presidency will lose its power and prestige, and under some Leaders, have no power at all," Trump posted minutes before entering the courtroom. "The Presidency will be consumed by the other Branches of Government. THAT IS NOT WHAT OUR FOUNDERS WANTED!"

Moment Judge Told TRUMP to SIT DOWN

Inside Trumps’ Courtroom Nightmare: ‘He has no power in there’

'That's Pretty Pathetic': Trump Rips Bidens' Comments About Possible Iran Attack On Israel

WHAT DOES SECTION 3 OF THE 14TH AMENDMENT SAY?
"No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."
But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

OR a psychiatrist therein..

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Ladybbird Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 47,660 Thanks: 27,646 Thanked 14,458 Times in 10,262 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 8	re: TRUMP THREATENS Obama/Bush & Biden of BIG Trouble If His 72 Felonies DON'T Vanish Is Donald Trump Going to Prison? TRUMP Lawyer Says YES and Resigns Joe Tacopina, one of the attorneys representing TRUMP in his Manhattan hush money case, has withdrawn from TRUMPS' legal team. TRUMP has 'extremely high' chance of being convicted in 2024, former US prosecutor says MSNBC 23 JAN 2024 Glenn Kirschner, a US attorney with 30 years of trial experience, said he believed that in at least two cases, the judge and prosecution team "understand the need to punish this kind of wrongdoing". Trump faces 91 charges across four criminal trials. While he is not expected to face all four in 2024, some trial dates have been set. The first is 4 March for his alleged role around the January 6 insurrection. In that prosecution in Washington DC, he faces four criminal counts related to an attempt to stay in power after the 2020 election: conspiracy to violate civil rights, conspiracy to defraud the government, the corrupt obstruction of an official proceeding and conspiracy to perpetrate that obstruction. Glenn Kirschner told Sky News: "I think the odds of a conviction are extremely high. It's important to recognise who the witnesses are against Donald Trump. These are not Donald Trump's enemies or opponents, these are not angry Democrats. "Interestingly, the people we know are likely to be on the witness list are almost exclusively Republicans. Some of them are his own former cabinet members, his former attorney-general, his former vice president. I believe the testimony we will see will come from a chorus of Republican voices. It makes it much more difficult for Donald Trump, a fellow Republican, to say 'they're all out to get me'." Trump-Linked Attorneys at Risk of Losing Law Licenses Trump is The First Candidate to Ever Campaign For HIS Right to Commit Any Crime __________________ PUTIN TRUMP & Netanyahu Will Meet in HELL ..................*SHARKS are Closing in on TRUMP*.......................... *TRUMP WARNS; 'There'll Be a Bloodbath* If I Don't Get Elected'..MAGA - MyAssGotArrested...IT's COMING** PLEASE HELP THIS SITE..Click DONATE & Thanks to ALL Members of ... 1.. THIS SITE IS MORE THAN JUST WAREZ...& TO STOP SPAM-IF YOU WANT TO POST, YOUR FIRST POST MUST BE IN WELCOMES

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Ladybbird Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 47,660 Thanks: 27,646 Thanked 14,458 Times in 10,262 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 8	Re: TRUMP THREATENS Obama/Bush & Biden of BIG Trouble If His 72 Felonies DON'T Vanish Completely UNHINGED TRUMP THREATENS Obama, Bush and Biden Are in BIG Trouble' If His Six Dozen Legal Troubles DON'T Vanish *---(Trump still thinks he’s running against Obama)* TRUMP Jumps Up and Lashes Out at Judge After He Announces Trial Will Start on Monday *---Reporter Describes Moment Judge Told TRUMP to SIT DOWN* The US Supreme Court Will Hear Arguments Next Week in Trumps' Immunity Appeal MSNBBC 20 APR 2024 Donald Trump rattled off a series of crazy social media posts demanding presidential immunity and threatening his predecessors before heading into the fourth day of his criminal trial Friday. The U.S. Supreme Court will hear arguments next week in Trump's appeal of his Washington, D.C., election subversion case, in which he claims to have broad immunity as a former president, and he issued what sounded like a threat to prosecute his immediate predecessors and his chief Democratic rival Joe Biden. "If a President does not have Immunity, the Opposing Party, during his/her term in Office, can extort and blackmail the President by saying that, 'if you don’t give us everything we want, we will Indict you for things you did while in Office,' even if everything done was totally Legal and Appropriate," Trump posted on Truth Social. "That would be the end of the Presidency, and our Country, as we know it, and is just one of the many Traps there would be for a President without Presidential Immunity." "Obama, Bush, and soon, Crooked Joe Biden, would all be in BIG TROUBLE. If a President doesn’t have IMMUNITY, he/she will be nothing more than a 'Ceremonial' President, rarely having the courage to do what has to be done for our Country," the former president added. "This is not what the Founders had in mind! Protect Presidential Immunity. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!" Trump has previously threatened to have Biden indicted if he wins a second term in the White House, although presidents don't have that authority, and has often called for the jailing of his political opponents dating back to his 2016 campaign against Hillary Clinton. "If immunity is not granted to a president, every president that leaves office will be immediately indicted by the opposing party," Trump posted in all-caps. "Without complete immunity, a president of the United States would not be able to properly function." Trump has been indicted by grand juries on 91 felony counts in four jurisdictions, including Manhattan, where he faces 34 charges related to the alleged falsification of business records to conceal his hush money payment to porn actress Stormy Daniels shortly before the 2016 election. "Without Presidential Immunity, the Presidency will lose its power and prestige, and under some Leaders, have no power at all," Trump posted minutes before entering the courtroom. "The Presidency will be consumed by the other Branches of Government. THAT IS NOT WHAT OUR FOUNDERS WANTED!" Moment Judge Told TRUMP to SIT DOWN Inside Trumps’ Courtroom Nightmare: ‘He has no power in there’ 'That's Pretty Pathetic': Trump Rips Bidens' Comments About Possible Iran Attack On Israel WHAT DOES SECTION 3 OF THE 14TH AMENDMENT SAY? "No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof." But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability. OR a psychiatrist therein..

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