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Ladybbird · 30-06-23, 04:07

France Police Killing: France Crisis-in-Waiting as Riots Spread

Why Are There Riots in France? - Officer Who Killed Teen Apologises Amid France Riots

Police Officer Charged Over Teen Nael M's Death as His Mother Leads March Through Paris

BBC NEWS 30 JUNE 2023

The outbreak of rioting in France is the stuff of bad dreams for President Emmanuel Macron.

French riot police react amid clashes with protesters during a march in tribute to Nahel, a 17-year-old teenager killed by a French police officer during a traffic stop, in Nanterre

To the list of other civil order crises he has had to surmount - terrorism, yellow-vests, left-wing protests over pensions - can now be added that persistent French crisis-in-waiting which is the banlieue - or suburb.

Sporadically over the last 18 years there have been outbreaks of rioting in the suburban cités or tenements, whose once-immigrant populations are now often third- or fourth- generation French.

Typically triggered by the accidental death or injury of a young male resident - an accident blamed on the police - they tended not to last more than a night or two.

Not since 2005 has there been a protracted trauma of the kind that now threatens.

Back then, as now, troubled banlieues went up in flames one by one across the country, as one suburb after another copycatted what had gone before.

Then as now, the main targets (beyond the easy prey of parked cars) were town halls, police stations and schools - any building essentially that might be flying a French flag.

Gonesse town hall near Paris was one of the targets for rioters on Wednesday night

And back then the rallying cries of protesters were social neglect, racial discrimination and police brutality. Again today, slogans that are little changed.

Yet in many ways things have changed.

Look for example at the billions of euros being spent on the Grand Paris Express project, which is putting new metro and tram connections across the suburbs and combating the social isolation that was said to be one of the main banlieue grievances.

Look at the spanking new public buildings in Paris suburbs like Nanterre or Massy. Neglect there is not a word that comes to mind.

Look at the growing numbers of people ofAfrican or Maghrebi origin who are now serving in the police - many more than were visible in 2005. Or at the efforts to get more people from the banlieues into elite schools and universities.

And look at how public language has changed. Old-fashioned bigotry towards minorities, which might have enjoyed an indulgent wink two or three decades ago, will invite condemnation today, if not prosecution.

The point is that France is changing, like everywhere else is.

But despite that, everyone in France also knows that there is still - neglected but festering - this ancient scar which is the problem of the banlieues.

Security in France's suburbs has been stepped up as the French government tries to calm protesters' anger

It is a scar born of colonialism, arrogance, long-gone wars and nurtured hatreds - to which might be added drugs, crime and religion. And it is not about to disappear.

President Emmanuel Macron had fervently been praying that the banlieue phenomenon would not be added to his litany of burdens, but his wish has not been granted.

This evening the suburbs will be swamped with police officers, in the hope that mass deployment will provide the shock that can bring the riots to an end.

But President Macron knows his history.

He knows that the 2005 riots lasted three weeks and only ended after the declaration of a state of emergency, with curfews and house arrests.

We are not there yet, but we could be.

Ladybbird · 01-07-23, 06:37

Macron Filmed Dancing at Elton John Gig as France Burns

Mutiny Threat - French Police Say ‘We Are at War With Vermin’

BBC NEWS 1 JULY 2023

Come to Nanterre to get an all-round view of the crisis boiling over in France. But if you are a journalist, be advised to keep your head down.

An approach to a group of young men - some bearded, one built like a bodybuilder - outside the Le 35 café prompts an aggressive outburst of swearing and a pointed finger directing me to keep out.

At the scene where police shot dead a 17-year-old boy of Algerian descent last Tuesday, women in Islamic headscarves shout abuse at police and the media from passing cars.

Wandering through the streets incognito - without a camera or notebook - past burned-out cars and smashed premises it is possible to pick up glimpses of the last catastrophic few days.

Three middle-aged white ladies, Lucille, Marie and Jeanne, are chatting with a black male friend on a bench outside their block of flats. The area is pristine, surrounded by gardens - like many other apartment blocks in Nanterre.

They don't want to be photographed as they fear their children would be identified and targeted as a result, but they are happy to chat.

People living in Nanterre have endured several nights of violence, looting and rioting

"The last three nights have been appalling. Between midnight and 4am it is bedlam outside our windows. No-one can sleep. I feel like I'm living on another planet," says Lucille.

Do they perhaps not feel the anger from the rioters is understandable, when one of Nanterre's young residents, Nahel, has been shot dead at a police check?

"This rioting has nothing to do with what happened. Of course, the kid shouldn't have been killed. But what was he doing joyriding without a licence at eight o'clock in the morning, when children are going to school?"

Marie looks at a smashed bus-shelter daubed with graffiti that reads "one cop, one bullet".

"You see what it says there? That I am completely against. I don't think the police are racist. There are good and bad in every group of people," she says.

They have little time for the dead teenager's mother, Mounia, who took part in a mass march in memory of Nahel on Thursday.

"What was she doing up on that open-top van in the march? It was undignified. That wasn't a march of grief. She's playing politics." The others nod in agreement.

"The boy wasn't known for anything. Just for being a yob."

Public buildings like this tax office have been singled out for attack in Nanterre and across France

Not far away on the Avenue Georges Clemenceau, lined with plane trees, the préfet who heads the Hauts-de-Seine department has come to survey the wreckage that was the front of the local tax office. "Deplorable, lamentable," he says.

Firework rockets fired by rioters at the building have left gaping holes in upper-floor windows. At street level, every pane has been smashed with a heavy instrument. Charred tax forms are scattered outside the entrance.

Among the onlookers is tax inspector Cyril, who lives in Nanterre but also declines to be photographed.

"What I feel is just wretched sadness," he says. "This tax office serves the people of Nanterre. The money that comes from here is used to buy them services. What on earth is the point of attacking it? It's a totally disproportionate response."

Cyril, however, says he is broadly sympathetic with people who want to protest against Tuesday's killing.

"I'm not sure if racist police is correct. Let's just say they have an attitude. The kids around here have all had rough treatment, often because they were doing something stupid, sure.

"But look, this was a kid," says Cyril. "The officer was an adult. He had a gun. It was his job to be in control of the situation. And he wasn't."

The local Nike store in Nanterre was trashed as rioting escalated on Thursday night

There are far stronger views, of course, among locals who took part in the memorial march.

Like Bakari, who doesn't justify the riots but believes they are understandable: "Certain people react against violence with violence."

"I wasn't surprised by [Nahel's killing] because we have all had bad experiences with police. There are good and bad everywhere, but the large majority of police are racist."

Or Yasmina: "I absolutely hate the French police. I wish them the worst. The whole system is corrupted by a systemic, racist ideology.

"[Nahel] could have been my kid brother. It blows my mind to think that a kid like that can make some stupid mistake, like anyone could do. He didn't deserve to die."

The town of Nanterre is far from the hellhole of isolated social deprivation some would like to depict. It is spacious, clean and two stops on the commuter train from the Arc de Triomphe in the centre of Paris.

The towers of La Défense business district are a stone's throw away.

There is a theatre, a university, the national opera dance school, and a large park named after former President Charles de Gaulle's culture minister André Malraux. Unfortunately, yesterday the children's roundabout that has stood there for the last 50 years was burned down.

The over-riding impression one takes away of the town is of two universes colliding.

On one level, all the standard accoutrements of the generous French state are plain to see.

Tricolours fly; the préfet comes to survey his domain; Metro trains whizz underground and, in the looming towers of La Défense multinationals make their billions.

But in the same geographic space, there is another way of being: one which appears utterly alienated from the system; which is quick to see and reflect hostility; which says "ici on est chez nous" - this patch is ours - and gives the finger to unwanted outsiders, like the press.

At a petrol station by the tax office, veteran Paris-Match photographer Eric Hadj is surveying his smashed-up car and preparing forms for the insurance claim.

"We were here on Thursday during the march. Some big guys came and told us to get out. They made it quite clear we risked something very nasty if we didn't. When we came back today, of course the car had been totally wrecked."

Hadj has been through a lot of riots in his time but says he has never seen anything like this.

"This is worse, far worse than 2005," he says.

Everyone here is looking back to the last sustained rioting that shook the French banlieues or suburbs for three weeks, wondering how long the latest unrest will last.

"Today there is social media, which gives the rioters a big advantage. But, above all, it is more violent. They have rockets. Whatever restraint there was has been removed," says the photographer.

Gérard Collomb, the former socialist mayor of Lyon and interior minister under President Macron, is well-known for his pithy sayings.

When he left office in 2018, he lamented the worrying tendency of French society to divide into communities - the very contradiction, he thought, of a single, unified Republic.

"Today we are living side by side," he said. "Tomorrow, I fear we will be face to face."

In Nanterre it is one face of France against another.

Ladybbird · 02-07-23, 06:18

INTO THE FRAY Macron Deploys Special Forces Commandos to Reinforce 45,000 Cops as Fifth Night of Violence ERUPTS Across France.

The BRUTAL CHAOS in French Cities Have Been Plunged Into 'War' Following The Police Killing of 17-Year-Old Nahel Merzouk on Tuesday.

BBC NEWS 2 JULY 2023

Since the killing, France has been plunged into "war" as police armoured cars and heavily armed paramilitary units were seen moving to confront gangs cutting a swathe of devastation across the nation.

President Macron dispatched the elite GIGN commandos after hundreds of people have gathered to bury the teen today.

The GIGN are France's top hostage rescue unit and are mobilised in critical circumstances involving counterterrorism, national threat and protection of government officials.

According to The Telegraph, Grégory Doucet, the mayor of Lyon, where dozens of police officers were injured on Friday night – including several by gunfire – called for urgent reinforcements, saying police in the city were “overwhelmed”.

And following a crisis meeting, he said Lyon "has been in the grip of riots of unprecedented intensity, damage and violence”.

The GIGN arrived in Marseille last night, according to cops in Bouches-du-Rhône.

Their arrival follows a night of terrorising clashes between riot police forces and protestors on Friday.

As well as the elite GIGN, armoured vehicles and helicopters were being sent to back-up security in Marseille.

30-06-23, 04:07	#1
Ladybbird Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 47,662 Thanks: 27,646 Thanked 14,458 Times in 10,262 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 8	Macron Deploys Special Forces Commandos as BRUTAL CHAOS ERUPTS Across France France Police Killing: France Crisis-in-Waiting as Riots Spread Why Are There Riots in France? - Officer Who Killed Teen Apologises Amid France Riots Police Officer Charged Over Teen Nael M's Death as His Mother Leads March Through Paris BBC NEWS 30 JUNE 2023 The outbreak of rioting in France is the stuff of bad dreams for President Emmanuel Macron. French riot police react amid clashes with protesters during a march in tribute to Nahel, a 17-year-old teenager killed by a French police officer during a traffic stop, in Nanterre To the list of other civil order crises he has had to surmount - terrorism, yellow-vests, left-wing protests over pensions - can now be added that persistent French crisis-in-waiting which is the banlieue - or suburb. Sporadically over the last 18 years there have been outbreaks of rioting in the suburban cités or tenements, whose once-immigrant populations are now often third- or fourth- generation French. Typically triggered by the accidental death or injury of a young male resident - an accident blamed on the police - they tended not to last more than a night or two. *Not since 2005 has there been a protracted trauma of the kind that now threatens.* Back then, as now, troubled banlieues went up in flames one by one across the country, as one suburb after another copycatted what had gone before. Then as now, the main targets (beyond the easy prey of parked cars) were town halls, police stations and schools - any building essentially that might be flying a French flag. Gonesse town hall near Paris was one of the targets for rioters on Wednesday night And back then the rallying cries of protesters were social neglect, racial discrimination and police brutality. Again today, slogans that are little changed. Yet in many ways things have changed. Look for example at the billions of euros being spent on the Grand Paris Express project, which is putting new metro and tram connections across the suburbs and combating the social isolation that was said to be one of the main banlieue grievances. Look at the spanking new public buildings in Paris suburbs like Nanterre or Massy. Neglect there is not a word that comes to mind. Look at the growing numbers of people ofAfrican or Maghrebi origin who are now serving in the police - many more than were visible in 2005. Or at the efforts to get more people from the banlieues into elite schools and universities. And look at how public language has changed. Old-fashioned bigotry towards minorities, which might have enjoyed an indulgent wink two or three decades ago, will invite condemnation today, if not prosecution. The point is that France is changing, like everywhere else is. But despite that, everyone in France also knows that there is still - neglected but festering - this ancient scar which is the problem of the banlieues. Security in France's suburbs has been stepped up as the French government tries to calm protesters' anger It is a scar born of colonialism, arrogance, long-gone wars and nurtured hatreds - to which might be added drugs, crime and religion. And it is not about to disappear. President Emmanuel Macron had fervently been praying that the banlieue phenomenon would not be added to his litany of burdens, but his wish has not been granted. This evening the suburbs will be swamped with police officers, in the hope that mass deployment will provide the shock that can bring the riots to an end. But President Macron knows his history. He knows that the 2005 riots lasted three weeks and only ended after the declaration of a state of emergency, with curfews and house arrests. We are not there yet, but we could be. __________________ PUTIN TRUMP & Netanyahu Will Meet in HELL ..................*SHARKS are Closing in on TRUMP*.......................... *TRUMP WARNS; 'There'll Be a Bloodbath* If I Don't Get Elected'..MAGA - MyAssGotArrested...IT's COMING** PLEASE HELP THIS SITE..Click DONATE & Thanks to ALL Members of ... 1.. THIS SITE IS MORE THAN JUST WAREZ...& TO STOP SPAM-IF YOU WANT TO POST, YOUR FIRST POST MUST BE IN WELCOMES

01-07-23, 06:37	#2
Ladybbird Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 47,662 Thanks: 27,646 Thanked 14,458 Times in 10,262 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 8	re: Macron Deploys Special Forces Commandos as BRUTAL CHAOS ERUPTS Across France Macron Filmed Dancing at Elton John Gig as France Burns Mutiny Threat - French Police Say ‘We Are at War With Vermin’ BBC NEWS 1 JULY 2023 Come to Nanterre to get an all-round view of the crisis boiling over in France. But if you are a journalist, be advised to keep your head down. An approach to a group of young men - some bearded, one built like a bodybuilder - outside the Le 35 café prompts an aggressive outburst of swearing and a pointed finger directing me to keep out. At the scene where police shot dead a 17-year-old boy of Algerian descent last Tuesday, women in Islamic headscarves shout abuse at police and the media from passing cars. Wandering through the streets incognito - without a camera or notebook - past burned-out cars and smashed premises it is possible to pick up glimpses of the last catastrophic few days. Three middle-aged white ladies, Lucille, Marie and Jeanne, are chatting with a black male friend on a bench outside their block of flats. The area is pristine, surrounded by gardens - like many other apartment blocks in Nanterre. They don't want to be photographed as they fear their children would be identified and targeted as a result, but they are happy to chat. People living in Nanterre have endured several nights of violence, looting and rioting "The last three nights have been appalling. Between midnight and 4am it is bedlam outside our windows. No-one can sleep. I feel like I'm living on another planet," says Lucille. Do they perhaps not feel the anger from the rioters is understandable, when one of Nanterre's young residents, Nahel, has been shot dead at a police check? "This rioting has nothing to do with what happened. Of course, the kid shouldn't have been killed. But what was he doing joyriding without a licence at eight o'clock in the morning, when children are going to school?" Marie looks at a smashed bus-shelter daubed with graffiti that reads "one cop, one bullet". "You see what it says there? That I am completely against. I don't think the police are racist. There are good and bad in every group of people," she says. They have little time for the dead teenager's mother, Mounia, who took part in a mass march in memory of Nahel on Thursday. "What was she doing up on that open-top van in the march? It was undignified. That wasn't a march of grief. She's playing politics." The others nod in agreement. *"The boy wasn't known for anything. Just for being a yob."* Public buildings like this tax office have been singled out for attack in Nanterre and across France Not far away on the Avenue Georges Clemenceau, lined with plane trees, the préfet who heads the Hauts-de-Seine department has come to survey the wreckage that was the front of the local tax office. "Deplorable, lamentable," he says. Firework rockets fired by rioters at the building have left gaping holes in upper-floor windows. At street level, every pane has been smashed with a heavy instrument. Charred tax forms are scattered outside the entrance. Among the onlookers is tax inspector Cyril, who lives in Nanterre but also declines to be photographed. "What I feel is just wretched sadness," he says. "This tax office serves the people of Nanterre. The money that comes from here is used to buy them services. What on earth is the point of attacking it? It's a totally disproportionate response." Cyril, however, says he is broadly sympathetic with people who want to protest against Tuesday's killing. "I'm not sure if racist police is correct. Let's just say they have an attitude. The kids around here have all had rough treatment, often because they were doing something stupid, sure. "But look, this was a kid," says Cyril. "The officer was an adult. He had a gun. It was his job to be in control of the situation. And he wasn't." The local Nike store in Nanterre was trashed as rioting escalated on Thursday night There are far stronger views, of course, among locals who took part in the memorial march. Like Bakari, who doesn't justify the riots but believes they are understandable: "Certain people react against violence with violence." "I wasn't surprised by [Nahel's killing] because we have all had bad experiences with police. There are good and bad everywhere, but the large majority of police are racist." Or Yasmina: "I absolutely hate the French police. I wish them the worst. The whole system is corrupted by a systemic, racist ideology. "[Nahel] could have been my kid brother. It blows my mind to think that a kid like that can make some stupid mistake, like anyone could do. He didn't deserve to die." The town of Nanterre is far from the hellhole of isolated social deprivation some would like to depict. It is spacious, clean and two stops on the commuter train from the Arc de Triomphe in the centre of Paris. The towers of La Défense business district are a stone's throw away. There is a theatre, a university, the national opera dance school, and a large park named after former President Charles de Gaulle's culture minister André Malraux. Unfortunately, yesterday the children's roundabout that has stood there for the last 50 years was burned down. The over-riding impression one takes away of the town is of two universes colliding. On one level, all the standard accoutrements of the generous French state are plain to see. Tricolours fly; the préfet comes to survey his domain; Metro trains whizz underground and, in the looming towers of La Défense multinationals make their billions. But in the same geographic space, there is another way of being: one which appears utterly alienated from the system; which is quick to see and reflect hostility; which says "ici on est chez nous" - this patch is ours - and gives the finger to unwanted outsiders, like the press. At a petrol station by the tax office, veteran Paris-Match photographer Eric Hadj is surveying his smashed-up car and preparing forms for the insurance claim. "We were here on Thursday during the march. Some big guys came and told us to get out. They made it quite clear we risked something very nasty if we didn't. When we came back today, of course the car had been totally wrecked." Hadj has been through a lot of riots in his time but says he has never seen anything like this. *"This is worse, far worse than 2005," he says.* Everyone here is looking back to the last sustained rioting that shook the French banlieues or suburbs for three weeks, wondering how long the latest unrest will last. "Today there is social media, which gives the rioters a big advantage. But, above all, it is more violent. They have rockets. Whatever restraint there was has been removed," says the photographer. Gérard Collomb, the former socialist mayor of Lyon and interior minister under President Macron, is well-known for his pithy sayings. When he left office in 2018, he lamented the worrying tendency of French society to divide into communities - the very contradiction, he thought, of a single, unified Republic. "Today we are living side by side," he said. "Tomorrow, I fear we will be face to face." In Nanterre it is one face of France against another. __________________ PUTIN TRUMP & Netanyahu Will Meet in HELL ..................*SHARKS are Closing in on TRUMP*.......................... *TRUMP WARNS; 'There'll Be a Bloodbath* If I Don't Get Elected'..MAGA - MyAssGotArrested...IT's COMING** PLEASE HELP THIS SITE..Click DONATE & Thanks to ALL Members of ... 1.. THIS SITE IS MORE THAN JUST WAREZ...& TO STOP SPAM-IF YOU WANT TO POST, YOUR FIRST POST MUST BE IN WELCOMES

02-07-23, 06:18	#3
Ladybbird Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 47,662 Thanks: 27,646 Thanked 14,458 Times in 10,262 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 8	Re: Macron Deploys Special Forces Commandos as BRUTAL CHAOS ERUPTS Across France INTO THE FRAY Macron Deploys Special Forces Commandos to Reinforce 45,000 Cops as Fifth Night of Violence ERUPTS Across France. The BRUTAL CHAOS in French Cities Have Been Plunged Into 'War' Following The Police Killing of 17-Year-Old Nahel Merzouk on Tuesday. BBC NEWS 2 JULY 2023 Since the killing, France has been plunged into "war" as police armoured cars and heavily armed paramilitary units were seen moving to confront gangs cutting a swathe of devastation across the nation. President Macron dispatched the elite GIGN commandos after hundreds of people have gathered to bury the teen today. The GIGN are France's top hostage rescue unit and are mobilised in critical circumstances involving counterterrorism, national threat and protection of government officials. According to The Telegraph, Grégory Doucet, the mayor of Lyon, where dozens of police officers were injured on Friday night – including several by gunfire – called for urgent reinforcements, saying police in the city were “overwhelmed”. And following a crisis meeting, he said Lyon "has been in the grip of riots of unprecedented intensity, damage and violence”. The GIGN arrived in Marseille last night, according to cops in Bouches-du-Rhône. Their arrival follows a night of terrorising clashes between riot police forces and protestors on Friday. As well as the elite GIGN, armoured vehicles and helicopters were being sent to back-up security in Marseille. __________________ PUTIN TRUMP & Netanyahu Will Meet in HELL ..................*SHARKS are Closing in on TRUMP*.......................... *TRUMP WARNS; 'There'll Be a Bloodbath* If I Don't Get Elected'..MAGA - MyAssGotArrested...IT's COMING** PLEASE HELP THIS SITE..Click DONATE & Thanks to ALL Members of ... 1.. THIS SITE IS MORE THAN JUST WAREZ...& TO STOP SPAM-IF YOU WANT TO POST, YOUR FIRST POST MUST BE IN WELCOMES

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