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Five UFO Congress Bombshells - Murder, Government Cover-Up and Non-Human Biology

Bombshell Revelations Included Threats of Violence and a Massive Alleged Government Cover-Up.

Three expert witnesses shared their testimonies, from first-hand encounters with "non-human" craft, to allegations of a cover-up spanning "decades" with threats for whistleblowers

BBC 28 JULY 2023

Horror, sci fi concept of alien monsters standing in a forest. Silhouetted by bright UFO lights at night

A first-of-its-kind hearing took place in the US Congress today as lawmakers heard from expert witnesses about their experiences encountering UFOs.

Three expert witnesses shared their testimonies and answered questions from Representatives. They were Ryan Graves, a former US Navy F-18 pilot and Director of Americans for Safe Aerospace; David Grusch, former intelligence official and whistleblower who claimed the US government was involved in a huge cover-up; and David Fravor, former Commanding Officer in the United States Navy.

The three men arrived at the Capitol today, ready to share their experiences of seeing UAPs (unexplained aerial phenomena) first hand, as well as their views on the government's handling of information related to non-human craft and evidence collected over the years.

'Biggest cover-up in history': UFO experts hint US has murdered people and hid remains

People lined up to attend a House Subcommittee on National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs hearing titled "Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security Public Safety and Government Transparency

At a Subcommittee on National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs, Chairman Glenn Grothman, Representative for Wisconsin, stressed the lack of transparency surrounding UAPs has "fuelled wild speculation and debate for decades, eroding public trust in the very institutions that are meant to protect and serve them".

He said the demand for "government transparency and accountability" cannot "be overlooked" and it's a "problem that has been around for 50 years".

Representative Grothman continued: "Transparency is the cornerstone of our republic, and it is incumbent upon Congress and the administration to provide clear answers to the American people.

Chairman Rep. Glenn Grothman, said the demand for "transparency" cannot be "overlooked"

"We must demand transparency from the Department of Defense, our Intelligence Community, and our defence industry on their UAP work. Congress recognises that the subject of UAPs is multifaceted and requires a careful, data-driven approach.

"Today, we will seek clarity from these witnesses' testimonies as to what can be done to improve reporting for the military and civilians and remain committed to objective inquiry."

He concluded his opening remarks by saying: "Today, we are not just debating the existence of UAPs, we are deliberating on the principles that define our republic, which is a commitment to transparency and accountability."

Here, we look at the biggest bombshell revelations from the dramatic hearing...

Bombshell 1: Close Encounters are Routine

Of the three witnesses speaking in Congress today, two of them have had their own personal experiences coming across UAPs. As a former F-18 pilot, Mr Graves recalled an incident in 2014, while he was stationed in Virginia Beach.

He explained that after upgrades were made to the radar systems on the jets, "we began detecting unknown objects operating in our airspace". They were initially thought to just be radar errors, however, he said they soon began to "correlate" what the radars were picking up with "multiple onboard sensors" and eventually "visual ID".

In his experience, he was taking part in a training mission around ten miles off the coast of Virginia Beach. During this mission, he said: "Two F-18 Super Hornets were split by a UAP.

"The object, described as a dark grey or a black cube inside of a clear sphere, came within 50 feet of the lead aircraft and was estimated to be five to 15 feet in diameter."

Retired US Navy F-18 pilot Ryan Graves spoke of his encounter with a UAP

His crew were swiftly returned to base, and his squadron reportedly "submitted a safety report but there was no official acknowledgement of the incident". But, he said: "Soon these encounters became so frequent that aircrew would discuss the first of UAP as part of their regular pre-flight briefs."

Retired Commander Fravor also had his own chilling experience with a "Tic-Tac" shaped craft. He was acting as commanding officer of Strike Fighter Squadron 41 - the "world-famous Black Aces" - off the coast of California.

During a mission, he recalled how the air controller was "counting down the range to an object that we were unaware of" what they would see when they got to the location. He recalled how the controller told them the objects had been observed for "over two weeks coming down from over 80,000 feet, rapidly descending to 20,000 feet, hanging out for a few hours and then going straight back up". As Commander Fravor explained: "80,000 feet is space."

When they got to the location they saw "white water" off their side, despite clear skies and calm seas with no whitecaps from the waves, making the "white water" stand out.

Retired Navy Commander David Fravor saw a "Tic-Tac" shaped unexplained object while on a mission

He said they "looked down and saw a small white Tic-Tac object" which was "moving very abruptly over the water like a ping-pong ball." He described how it had "no rotors" or "wings".

Commander Fravor went down to "take a closer look" when the object "suddenly shifted" and "began to climb". As they came nose-to-nose with the strange object, he recalled it "rapidly accelerated in front of us and disappeared".

The other jet, sitting above to observe, also "lost contact" with the craft at this point. They looked around and all seemed calm again.

After they returned, they discussed it with another crew who managed to capture a "90-second video" of the craft, which has been released. However, he said there was also radar footage of the craft "which was never released" and they "don't know where it's at".

One of the infamous UFOs is the so-called 'Tic-Tac' UFO

Bombshell 2: Government Accused of Covering Up 'Reverse Engineering' Program For Decades'

One of the biggest accusations to come out of today's hearing was from David Grusch. Mr Grusch has accused the US Government of participating in a sanctioned UAP "crash retrieval" program for "decades" with officers who are trained to detect, retrieve and even reverse engineer recovered technology.

Mr Grusch said he was asked in 2019 by the head of a government task force on UAPs to identify all highly classified programs relating to the task force's mission. He explained: "I was informed in the course of my official duties of a multi-decade UAP crash retrieval and reverse engineering program to which I was denied access."

The Pentagon has denied Mr Grusch's claims of a coverup. In a statement, Defense Department spokeswoman Sue Gough said investigators have not discovered "any verifiable information to substantiate claims that any programs regarding the possession or reverse-engineering of extraterrestrial materials have existed in the past or exist currently."

Whistleblower David Grusch accused the government of a cover-up which had been going on for "decades"

The statement did not address UFOs that are not suspected of being extraterrestrial objects. However, some lawmakers have criticised the Pentagon for not providing more details in a classified briefing or releasing images that could be shown to the public.

When asked by Representative Robert Garcia whether the US government was in possession of UAPs, Mr Grusch replied: "Absolutely."

He said his evidence is based on interviews with more than 40 witnesses over the last four years. Information on where those UAPs are located was given to the Inspector General and intelligence committees, Grusch said.

When asked if he had knowledge of people being harmed or injured in efforts to cover up UAP technology and activity, he said: "Yes, personally."

Asked whether he believes the government is in possession of UAPs, David Grusch said: "Absolutely, based on interviewing over 40 witnesses over four years.."

When Rep Garcia pushed him to where they are, Mr Grusch replied: "I know the exact locations and those locations were provided to the inspector general and some of which to the intelligence committees."

Bombshell 3: 'Non-Human' Biology Recovered From Crash Sites

South Carolina Representative Nancy Mace used her questions to try and get Mr Grusch to elaborate on his knowledge of non-terrestrial bodies. She asked about the alleged recovered non-human craft, asking if the pilots had been recovered along the craft. However, Mr Grusch said he could not publicly confirm this.

When pushed further on the possibility of biological recoveries, Mr Grusch said: "As I've stated publicly already in my NewsNation interview, biologics came with some of these recoveries, yeah."

Rep. Mace asked him to elaborate further on whether they were of human origins or not. Mr Grusch confirmed:

"Non-human, and that was the assessment of people with direct knowledge on the programme I talked to that are currently still on that programme."

Rep Eric Burlison, of Missouri, said he was "pretty sceptical" in today's meeting, and pushed Mr Grusch further on the topic of alleged recovered craft and biologics.

He asked Mr Grusch directly: "Have you seen the spacecraft?" Mr Grusch appeared to think for a second before responding: "I have to be careful to describe what I've seen firsthand, and not in this environment, but I could answer that question behind closed doors."

Rep. Eric Burlison (R-MO) said he was a 'sceptic' in today's hearing

Pressed further on whether he had "seen any of the bodies", Mr Grusch responded: "That's something I have not witnessed myself."

Rep Burlison said he finds it "far-fetched" that an alien species, capable of travelling "billions of lightyears" would arrive and is "somehow is incompetent enough to not survive Earth or crashes".

"Regardless of your level of sentience, planes crash, cars crash," Mr Grusch explained. "And a number of sorties, however high, a small percentage is going to end in mission failure if you will, as we say in the air force."

Bombshell 4: 'People Have Been Hurt' in Cover-Up

Mr Grusch, a whistleblower and former intelligence official, claimed in June the US had possession of "intact and partially intact" alien craft. In a series of interviews, he accused the government of a cover-up, saying they had been recovering pieces of non-human craft for decades.

However, speaking today, Mr Grusch told lawmakers he faced "brutal" retaliation after his decision to come forward with what he knew. He added he was "administratively attacked" for his views on UAPs, saying others had as well, and there had even been threats of physical injury.

"There were certain colleagues of mine that were brutally administratively attacked," Mr Grusch told the hearing. "It actually makes me very upset as a leader to see that happen to other co-workers and actually superiors of mine in the last three years."

David Grusch said there had been "non-human" biological evidence recovered

Maryland Representative Jamie Raskin asked: "How do you account for that response? That seems like a bizarre response."

Mr Grusch replied calling it "administrative terrorism". He explained: That's in their quiver or tool in the toolbox to silence people, especially the career government servants who care about their career, care about their clearance, their reputation, to climb the ladder, and when you threaten that flow, that career path, a lot of people back off. But I'm here to represent those people."

When asked if he had knowledge of people being harmed or injured in efforts to cover up UAP technology and activity, he said: "Yes, personally."

He also added he had feared for his life at times due to the retaliation. When asked to elaborate on the "brutal" treatment he received, Mr Grusch explicitly said: "I do have knowledge of active planned reprisal activity against myself and other colleagues."

Congressman Burchett asked Mr Grush whether he believes anyone has been "murdered" in an effort to cover up the existence of UAPs. He was also asked: "So at one point, you said that there has been harmful activity or progressive activity. Has any of the activity been aggressive? Been hostile in your reports?"

Mr Grusch responded: "I know of multiple colleagues of mine that got physically injured" as a result of UFO activity and government action.

Missouri Rep Burlison brought up Mr Grusch's allegations of "harmful" or "aggressive" activity, asking the former intelligence official whether any of the activity has been "aggressive" or "hostile" in his reports.

Mr Grusch said he was aware of "multiple colleagues" of his who were "physically injured". Rep Burlison asked for clarification as to whether this was by UAPs or "people within the federal government", to which Mr Grusch simply responded: "Both."

Probing further about the interactions between the non-human entities and humans, and whether this has "caused harm to humans," Mr Grusch said he "can't get into the specifics in an open environment".

He went on to clarify: "At least the activity that I personally witnessed... what I personally witnessed myself and my wife, was very disturbing."

Bombshell 5: Sightings are Grossly Underreported

The first witness to give his testimony was former US Navy F-18 pilot, and co-founder of Americans for Safe Aerospace, Ryan Graves. Mr Graves said: "As we convene here, UAP are in our air space, but they are grossly underreported.

"These sightings are not rare or isolated, they are routine. Military aircrew and commercial pilots, trained observers whose lives depend on accurate identification, are frequently witnessing these phenomena.

"The stigma attached to UAPs is real and powerful and challenging national security. It silences commercial pilots who fear professional repercussions, discourages witnesses, it is only compounded by recent government claims questioning the credibility of eyewitness testimony.

"Parts of our government are aware of more about UAPs than they let on, but excessive classification practices keep crucial information hidden. Since 2021, all UAP videos are classified as secret or above, this level of secrecy not only impedes our understanding but fuels speculation and mistrust."

Mr Graves spoke of the witnesses who come to his organisation, saying they are often "veterans with decades of prior flying experience". However, he said: "I believe these accounts are only scratching the surface, and more will share their experiences once it is safe to do so."

He closed out his statement by urging people to "put aside stigma and address the security and safety issue this topic represents". He said: "The American people deserve to know what is happening in our skies. It is long overdue."

When asked by South Carolina Representative Nancy Mace about the percentage of UAP sightings that "go unreported", Mr Graves gave a stark figure. He estimated that "we're somewhere near five per cent reporting, perhaps."

When Chairman Grothman asked him to elaborate on what could be done to improve reporting, either military or commercial Mr Graves explained: "Right now we need a system where pilots can report without fear of losing their jobs".

He elaborated to say there is a "fear" that the "stigma associated with this topic" could lead to "professional repercussions either through management or perhaps through their yearly physical check".

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Ladybbird Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 47,650 Thanks: 27,646 Thanked 14,458 Times in 10,262 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 8	US Govt UFO Cover-Up Bombshells -Murder & Non-Human Biology Five UFO Congress Bombshells - Murder, Government Cover-Up and Non-Human Biology Bombshell Revelations Included Threats of Violence and a Massive Alleged Government Cover-Up. Three expert witnesses shared their testimonies, from first-hand encounters with "non-human" craft, to allegations of a cover-up spanning "decades" with threats for whistleblowers BBC 28 JULY 2023 Horror, sci fi concept of alien monsters standing in a forest. Silhouetted by bright UFO lights at night A first-of-its-kind hearing took place in the US Congress today as lawmakers heard from expert witnesses about their experiences encountering UFOs. Three expert witnesses shared their testimonies and answered questions from Representatives. They were Ryan Graves, a former US Navy F-18 pilot and Director of Americans for Safe Aerospace; David Grusch, former intelligence official and whistleblower who claimed the US government was involved in a huge cover-up; and David Fravor, former Commanding Officer in the United States Navy. The three men arrived at the Capitol today, ready to share their experiences of seeing UAPs (unexplained aerial phenomena) first hand, as well as their views on the government's handling of information related to non-human craft and evidence collected over the years. 'Biggest cover-up in history': UFO experts hint US has murdered people and hid remains People lined up to attend a House Subcommittee on National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs hearing titled "Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security Public Safety and Government Transparency At a Subcommittee on National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs, Chairman Glenn Grothman, Representative for Wisconsin, stressed the lack of transparency surrounding UAPs has "fuelled wild speculation and debate for decades, eroding public trust in the very institutions that are meant to protect and serve them". He said the demand for "government transparency and accountability" cannot "be overlooked" and it's a "problem that has been around for 50 years". Representative Grothman continued: "Transparency is the cornerstone of our republic, and it is incumbent upon Congress and the administration to provide clear answers to the American people. Chairman Rep. Glenn Grothman, said the demand for "transparency" cannot be "overlooked" "We must demand transparency from the Department of Defense, our Intelligence Community, and our defence industry on their UAP work. Congress recognises that the subject of UAPs is multifaceted and requires a careful, data-driven approach. "Today, we will seek clarity from these witnesses' testimonies as to what can be done to improve reporting for the military and civilians and remain committed to objective inquiry." He concluded his opening remarks by saying: "Today, we are not just debating the existence of UAPs, we are deliberating on the principles that define our republic, which is a commitment to transparency and accountability." Here, we look at the biggest bombshell revelations from the dramatic hearing... Bombshell 1: Close Encounters are Routine Of the three witnesses speaking in Congress today, two of them have had their own personal experiences coming across UAPs. As a former F-18 pilot, Mr Graves recalled an incident in 2014, while he was stationed in Virginia Beach. He explained that after upgrades were made to the radar systems on the jets, "we began detecting unknown objects operating in our airspace". They were initially thought to just be radar errors, however, he said they soon began to "correlate" what the radars were picking up with "multiple onboard sensors" and eventually "visual ID". In his experience, he was taking part in a training mission around ten miles off the coast of Virginia Beach. During this mission, he said: "Two F-18 Super Hornets were split by a UAP. "The object, described as a dark grey or a black cube inside of a clear sphere, came within 50 feet of the lead aircraft and was estimated to be five to 15 feet in diameter." Retired US Navy F-18 pilot Ryan Graves spoke of his encounter with a UAP His crew were swiftly returned to base, and his squadron reportedly "submitted a safety report but there was no official acknowledgement of the incident". But, he said: "Soon these encounters became so frequent that aircrew would discuss the first of UAP as part of their regular pre-flight briefs." Retired Commander Fravor also had his own chilling experience with a "Tic-Tac" shaped craft. He was acting as commanding officer of Strike Fighter Squadron 41 - the "world-famous Black Aces" - off the coast of California. During a mission, he recalled how the air controller was "counting down the range to an object that we were unaware of" what they would see when they got to the location. He recalled how the controller told them the objects had been observed for "over two weeks coming down from over 80,000 feet, rapidly descending to 20,000 feet, hanging out for a few hours and then going straight back up". As Commander Fravor explained: "80,000 feet is space." When they got to the location they saw "white water" off their side, despite clear skies and calm seas with no whitecaps from the waves, making the "white water" stand out. Retired Navy Commander David Fravor saw a "Tic-Tac" shaped unexplained object while on a mission He said they "looked down and saw a small white Tic-Tac object" which was "moving very abruptly over the water like a ping-pong ball." He described how it had "no rotors" or "wings". Commander Fravor went down to "take a closer look" when the object "suddenly shifted" and "began to climb". As they came nose-to-nose with the strange object, he recalled it "rapidly accelerated in front of us and disappeared". The other jet, sitting above to observe, also "lost contact" with the craft at this point. They looked around and all seemed calm again. After they returned, they discussed it with another crew who managed to capture a "90-second video" of the craft, which has been released. However, he said there was also radar footage of the craft "which was never released" and they "don't know where it's at". One of the infamous UFOs is the so-called 'Tic-Tac' UFO Bombshell 2: Government Accused of Covering Up 'Reverse Engineering' Program For Decades' One of the biggest accusations to come out of today's hearing was from David Grusch. Mr Grusch has accused the US Government of participating in a sanctioned UAP "crash retrieval" program for "decades" with officers who are trained to detect, retrieve and even reverse engineer recovered technology. Mr Grusch said he was asked in 2019 by the head of a government task force on UAPs to identify all highly classified programs relating to the task force's mission. He explained: "I was informed in the course of my official duties of a multi-decade UAP crash retrieval and reverse engineering program to which I was denied access." The Pentagon has denied Mr Grusch's claims of a coverup. In a statement, Defense Department spokeswoman Sue Gough said investigators have not discovered "any verifiable information to substantiate claims that any programs regarding the possession or reverse-engineering of extraterrestrial materials have existed in the past or exist currently." Whistleblower David Grusch accused the government of a cover-up which had been going on for "decades" The statement did not address UFOs that are not suspected of being extraterrestrial objects. However, some lawmakers have criticised the Pentagon for not providing more details in a classified briefing or releasing images that could be shown to the public. When asked by Representative Robert Garcia whether the US government was in possession of UAPs, Mr Grusch replied: "Absolutely." He said his evidence is based on interviews with more than 40 witnesses over the last four years. Information on where those UAPs are located was given to the Inspector General and intelligence committees, Grusch said. When asked if he had knowledge of people being harmed or injured in efforts to cover up UAP technology and activity, he said: "Yes, personally." Asked whether he believes the government is in possession of UAPs, David Grusch said: "Absolutely, based on interviewing over 40 witnesses over four years.." When Rep Garcia pushed him to where they are, Mr Grusch replied: "I know the exact locations and those locations were provided to the inspector general and some of which to the intelligence committees." Bombshell 3: 'Non-Human' Biology Recovered From Crash Sites South Carolina Representative Nancy Mace used her questions to try and get Mr Grusch to elaborate on his knowledge of non-terrestrial bodies. She asked about the alleged recovered non-human craft, asking if the pilots had been recovered along the craft. However, Mr Grusch said he could not publicly confirm this. When pushed further on the possibility of biological recoveries, Mr Grusch said: "As I've stated publicly already in my NewsNation interview, biologics came with some of these recoveries, yeah." Rep. Mace asked him to elaborate further on whether they were of human origins or not. Mr Grusch confirmed: "Non-human, and that was the assessment of people with direct knowledge on the programme I talked to that are currently still on that programme." Rep Eric Burlison, of Missouri, said he was "pretty sceptical" in today's meeting, and pushed Mr Grusch further on the topic of alleged recovered craft and biologics. He asked Mr Grusch directly: "Have you seen the spacecraft?" Mr Grusch appeared to think for a second before responding: "I have to be careful to describe what I've seen firsthand, and not in this environment, but I could answer that question behind closed doors." Rep. Eric Burlison (R-MO) said he was a 'sceptic' in today's hearing Pressed further on whether he had "seen any of the bodies", Mr Grusch responded: "That's something I have not witnessed myself." Rep Burlison said he finds it "far-fetched" that an alien species, capable of travelling "billions of lightyears" would arrive and is "somehow is incompetent enough to not survive Earth or crashes". "Regardless of your level of sentience, planes crash, cars crash," Mr Grusch explained. "And a number of sorties, however high, a small percentage is going to end in mission failure if you will, as we say in the air force." Bombshell 4: 'People Have Been Hurt' in Cover-Up Mr Grusch, a whistleblower and former intelligence official, claimed in June the US had possession of "intact and partially intact" alien craft. In a series of interviews, he accused the government of a cover-up, saying they had been recovering pieces of non-human craft for decades. However, speaking today, Mr Grusch told lawmakers he faced "brutal" retaliation after his decision to come forward with what he knew. He added he was "administratively attacked" for his views on UAPs, saying others had as well, and there had even been threats of physical injury. "There were certain colleagues of mine that were brutally administratively attacked," Mr Grusch told the hearing. "It actually makes me very upset as a leader to see that happen to other co-workers and actually superiors of mine in the last three years." David Grusch said there had been "non-human" biological evidence recovered Maryland Representative Jamie Raskin asked: "How do you account for that response? That seems like a bizarre response." Mr Grusch replied calling it "administrative terrorism". He explained: That's in their quiver or tool in the toolbox to silence people, especially the career government servants who care about their career, care about their clearance, their reputation, to climb the ladder, and when you threaten that flow, that career path, a lot of people back off. But I'm here to represent those people." When asked if he had knowledge of people being harmed or injured in efforts to cover up UAP technology and activity, he said: "Yes, personally." He also added he had feared for his life at times due to the retaliation. When asked to elaborate on the "brutal" treatment he received, Mr Grusch explicitly said: "I do have knowledge of active planned reprisal activity against myself and other colleagues." Congressman Burchett asked Mr Grush whether he believes anyone has been "murdered" in an effort to cover up the existence of UAPs. He was also asked: "So at one point, you said that there has been harmful activity or progressive activity. Has any of the activity been aggressive? Been hostile in your reports?" Mr Grusch responded: "I know of multiple colleagues of mine that got physically injured" as a result of UFO activity and government action. Missouri Rep Burlison brought up Mr Grusch's allegations of "harmful" or "aggressive" activity, asking the former intelligence official whether any of the activity has been "aggressive" or "hostile" in his reports. Mr Grusch said he was aware of "multiple colleagues" of his who were "physically injured". Rep Burlison asked for clarification as to whether this was by UAPs or "people within the federal government", to which Mr Grusch simply responded: "Both." Probing further about the interactions between the non-human entities and humans, and whether this has "caused harm to humans," Mr Grusch said he "can't get into the specifics in an open environment". He went on to clarify: "At least the activity that I personally witnessed... what I personally witnessed myself and my wife, was very disturbing." Bombshell 5: Sightings are Grossly Underreported The first witness to give his testimony was former US Navy F-18 pilot, and co-founder of Americans for Safe Aerospace, Ryan Graves. Mr Graves said: "As we convene here, UAP are in our air space, but they are grossly underreported. "These sightings are not rare or isolated, they are routine. Military aircrew and commercial pilots, trained observers whose lives depend on accurate identification, are frequently witnessing these phenomena. "The stigma attached to UAPs is real and powerful and challenging national security. It silences commercial pilots who fear professional repercussions, discourages witnesses, it is only compounded by recent government claims questioning the credibility of eyewitness testimony. "Parts of our government are aware of more about UAPs than they let on, but excessive classification practices keep crucial information hidden. Since 2021, all UAP videos are classified as secret or above, this level of secrecy not only impedes our understanding but fuels speculation and mistrust." Mr Graves spoke of the witnesses who come to his organisation, saying they are often "veterans with decades of prior flying experience". However, he said: "I believe these accounts are only scratching the surface, and more will share their experiences once it is safe to do so." He closed out his statement by urging people to "put aside stigma and address the security and safety issue this topic represents". He said: "The American people deserve to know what is happening in our skies. It is long overdue." When asked by South Carolina Representative Nancy Mace about the percentage of UAP sightings that "go unreported", Mr Graves gave a stark figure. He estimated that "we're somewhere near five per cent reporting, perhaps." When Chairman Grothman asked him to elaborate on what could be done to improve reporting, either military or commercial Mr Graves explained: "Right now we need a system where pilots can report without fear of losing their jobs". He elaborated to say there is a "fear" that the "stigma associated with this topic" could lead to "professional repercussions either through management or perhaps through their yearly physical check". __________________ PUTIN TRUMP & Netanyahu Will Meet in HELL ..................*SHARKS are Closing in on TRUMP*.......................... *TRUMP WARNS; 'There'll Be a Bloodbath* If I Don't Get Elected'..MAGA - MyAssGotArrested...IT's COMING** PLEASE HELP THIS SITE..Click DONATE & Thanks to ALL Members of ... 1.. 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