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Movies Examining The Bin Laden Papers + His Mother Talks

Revealed: How Obama was Playing Golf until 20 minutes before Navy SEALS began Mission to take out Bin Laden

Daily Mail UK

  • Stayed out on golf course to distance himself if it went wrong, book claims
  • We would have taken him alive if he surrendered, says commander
  • Al-Qaeda leader's wife screamed: 'No, no, don't do this... it’s not him!'
  • SEALs nicknamed Bin Laden 'Bert' in reference to Sesame Street muppet
Last updated at 7:41 AM on 7th November 2011


In the official photograph, he looked every inch the commander in chief.

Strain etched on his face, Barack Obama watched as the raid to kill Osama bin Laden played out on a television in front of him.

According to a new book, however, the President was not nearly that engaged – and was actually playing golf until 20 minutes before the operation began in earnest.






Quick change: President Obama was golfing just 20 minutes before Osama Bin Laden was killed and he was pictured looking on intently in the Situation Room, right, according to a new book (File golf picture from June)


Only then did he down his clubs and return to the White House to watch what he later trumpeted as a great success of his presidency.


A new book claims the official account was riddled with errors and that Bin Laden was referred to as 'Bert' and not just 'Geronimo'.


Also, none of the Navy SEALs said the now famous words: 'For God and country', and when they burst into Bin Laden's room, his wife screamed: 'No, no, don't do this... it’s not him!'
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Important CIA Bin Laden Informant Gets 30yrs Jail- US Cuts Aid to Pakistan

US Cuts Pakistan Aid over Jailing of 'Bin Laden Doctor'

BBC 25 May 2012



Dr Shakil Afridi

A US Senate panel has cut $33m (£21m) in aid to Pakistan in response to the jailing of a Pakistani doctor who helped the CIA find Osama Bin Laden.
The Senate Appropriations Committee has said it will cut US aid by $1m for each year of Shakil Afridi's sentence.
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said his term was "unjust and unwarranted".
Dr Afridi was tried for treason under a tribal justice system for running a fake vaccination programme to gather information for US intelligence.
Bin Laden was killed by US forces in Abbottabad, Pakistan, in May 2011.
The move from the Senate panel follows earlier cuts to the White House's budget request for Pakistan. The cuts would be part of a bill that would send $1bn in aid to Pakistan in the next financial year.
"We need Pakistan, Pakistan needs us, but we don't need Pakistan double-dealing and not seeing the justice in bringing Osama Bin Laden to an end," said Republican Senator Lindsey Graham, calling Pakistan "a schizophrenic ally".
Meanwhile Democratic Senator Patrick Leahy said: "It's Alice in Wonderland at best. If this is co-operation, I'd hate like hell to see opposition."



Hillary Clinton: ''We regret both the fact that he was convicted and the severity of his sentence''

Correspondents say the cuts reflect mounting frustration in Congress over Pakistan's role in fighting terrorism on its soil.
Absent from court Meanwhile, Mrs Clinton spoke out against Dr Afridi's sentence.
"The United States does not believe there is any basis for holding Dr [Shakil] Afridi. We regret the fact that he was convicted and the severity of his sentence," Mrs Clinton told reporters on Thursday.
She added that she would continue to pursue the issue with the authorities in Pakistan.
The killing triggered a rift between the US and Pakistan, whose government was seriously embarrassed as it emerged Bin Laden had been living in Pakistan.
Islamabad felt the covert US operation was a violation of its sovereignty.

HOW IT HAPPENED

Osama Bin Laden's death: How it happened
  • 1
    Helicopter-borne US Navy Seals fly from Afghanistan to Osama Bin Laden's compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan, arriving at
    around 0030 Monday (0930GMT Sunday).
  • 2
    Two Black Hawk helicopters set down at the compound after one develops problems. A team of 25 Seals breaches at least three walls to reach the main building.
  • 3
    As they go through the compound one person fires on the commandos. Three men and a woman are killed by the US Navy Seals. There are no
    US casualties.
  • 4
    On the second floor US commandos find Osama Bin Laden in a room with his wife. She is shot in the leg. Bin Laden, who is unarmed, is shot twice
    and killed.
  • 5
    Computer hard drives and other evidence is taken from the compound, along with Bin Laden's body. The US team departs after destroying the damaged aircraft.


Tension in the White House situation room



President Barack Obama followed the raid on Bin Laden's compound from the White House situation room - a secure space used to monitor and manage crises. For 40 minutes, the president and his senior aides were kept updated of the progress of the operation. "The minutes passed like days," said White House counter-terrorism chief John Brennan. On hearing of Bin Laden's death, Mr Obama declared: "We got him."

1. Joe Biden
Vice president of the United States

2. Barack Obama
President of the United States

3. Brigadier General Marshall B "Brad" Webb
Joint special operations command

4. Denis McDonough
Deputy national security adviser

5. Hillary Clinton
Secretary of state

6. Robert Gates
Secretary of defense

7. Admiral Mike Mullen
Chairman of the joint chiefs of staff

8. Tom Donilon
National security adviser

9. Bill Daley
Chief of staff

10. Tony Blinken
National security adviser to the vice president

11. Audrey Tomason
Director for counter-terrorism

12. John Brennan
Assistant to the president for
homeland security and counter-terrorism


13. James Clapper
Director of national intelligence

Crashed Helicopter


One of the helicopters used in the operation failed and was destroyed by the special forces before they left.

The Compound


The fortified compound was built on the edge of the hill town of Abbottabad, with no phone or internet connections.

Osama Bin Laden's Compound: How it evolved over time


The Pentagon released satellite images dating back several years of the compound where Osama Bin Laden was discovered. They clearly show how it was extended over the years.
By Adrian Brown BBC News

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It's come down to Pakistan having to figure out which side it's on. One that produces a dilemma no matter which way it turns.

For years, Pakistan has been double dealing. On one hand saying it has nothing to do with terrorists while providing them with a safe haven. It has done so because it can't publicly and outright attack it's sworn enemy, India. Instead the terrorists have been fighting the battle for them, while Pakistan says it can't control them.

On the other hand, it's been telling it's citizenry that it hasn't been working with the US to provide intelligence to the CIA for drone strikes, even while providing an air base to launch them from inside Pakistan. So the citizenry is up in arms about the US invading it's sovereign airspace. Not realizing that the Pakistani government has been playing two-faced.

You can not convince me that Pakistan did not know that Bin Hiddin' was not there. Not being where he was, with in a mile or so of our equivalent of West Point for training cadets for military officers. Nothing in the line of communications could have passed without them knowing. Nothing in the line of people in the town and what they were doing would have passed either.

Pakistan knew just what was going on. It's why all previous efforts of locating Bin Hiddin' though his lieutenants and known messengers had failed. They were being tipped off to get out of the area before the US forces showed up. Pakistan was caught this time with no knowledge to pass on. The Pakistani government was not told of the target nor where the location was until moments before the action happened. It's the first time that things went as planned, because all knowledge of what was to happen was withheld.

Pakistan now has to make a decision on where it's bread is buttered. It's either the US or it's China. China won't put up with that sort of double dealing long, already having been put on display for what it is by the US.

Pakistan has been receiving lots of money to aid us in this business of fighting terrorists. That is now coming to an end as Pakistan shows just what it knew from it's actions. There is no way Pakistan would be seeking vengence through court unless this doctor had upset the balance so carefully crafted by the country's government. It tells all that needs be said through this action. No amount of diplomatic pressure is necessary to read these actions as for what they are.
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The Pakistan Government has two choices, live by the dollar & die by the gun or live by the terrorists.....and at least live
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I disagree for one reason. Either way they go, the terrorists still have to be dealt with.

We've already seen that the local terrorists have no compunctions about striking in Pakistan at the politicians that don't support them. So at some point the terrorists will realize they are better protected and better off, if they themselves rule the country.

Either choice will come down to the same thing, having to deal with terrorists threats. The one choice Pakistan got, was to have the US remove some of the problem, which for a while Pakistan did. Now that the goal posts have shifted, Pakistan will eventually become a terrorist target when they decide that ruling the country is better than sitting on the sidelines trying to find out what is happening around them.
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Arrow Right Navy SEAL who Killed Bin Laden Revealed

Turkish Special Forces Capture Top Al Qaida Leader, -Bin Laden’s son-in-law

World Tribune, 7 March 2013

ANKARA — Turkey, in cooperation with the United States, has captured a senior member of Al Qaida.
Turkish and Islamist sources said Suleiman Abu Gheith was captured by special forces in Ankara on 1st Feb, 2013.
They said Abu Gheith, identified as the son-in-law of the late Al Qaida founder Osama bin Laden, entered
Turkey on a forged Saudi Arabian passport.




Suleiman Abu Gheith is the husband of Fatima bin Laden, who currently lives in Saudi Arabia.
Abu Gheith is a Kuwaiti national who had his citizenship revoked.

Turkish authorities arrested the Kuwait national Suleiman Jassim Abu Gheith,” the Islamic Observatory said.

For nearly a decade, Abu Gheith was said to have been based in Iran. The sources said Abu Gheith, who
married bin Laden’s daughter, Fatima, served as spokesman of Al Qaida.

“Turkish security forces were able to arrest Suleiman Abu Gheith, son-in-law of Al Qaida leader Osama bin Laden,
after Turkish authorities received intelligence from the CIA regarding his arrival in Turkey,” the British-based
Observatory said.

The sources said Abu Gheith, transferred to Turkey’s General Security Directorate, has asked Ankara for asylum
while the United States sought to interrogate the Al Qaida leader. They said Abu Gheith had intended to leave
Turkey for Saudi Arabia to be reunited with his wife.

In 2001, Kuwait stripped Abu Gheith of his nationality in wake of Al Qaida’s suicide air strikes in the United
States. It is believed he was involved in the organisation of the 9/11 attacks.

More than a decade later, the United Nations removed Abu Gheith’s name from the so-called terror watch list. <<< DUH!

In another development, at least two people were killed when a suicide bomber blew himself up outside the U.S.
embassy in Turkey. Later, a leftist group, Revolutionary People’s Liberation Front, claimed responsibility for
the Feb. 1 attack.

“This attack will not affect Turkish-American relations, and we still
see you as a friend,” U.S. ambassador to Turkey, Francis Ricciardione, said.
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I really hate these topics as I don't really believe Al Qaida did the bombings in the US??????
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United States of America Bin Laden's Hate for The West Grew in Shakespeare's Birthplace

EXCLUSIVE - Navy SEAL who Killed Bin Laden Revealed:
-Rob O'Neill Named as SEAL Team Six Hero who Shot 9/11 Mastermind Three Times in Head - and has Already Inspired Series of Hollywood Films

  • SEAL Rob O'Neill named ahead of Fox News interview in which he will tell how he killed bin Laden and why he is giving up his anonymity
  • Navy hero is upset at lack of healthcare and retirement after leaving the service and wants to speak out
  • In an exclusive interview with MailOnline, Rob's father reveals he and his son are NOT worried about being in the ISIS crosshairs
  • Dad says 'I'll paint a big target on my front door and say come and get us'
  • His actions have already featured in three movies including Captain Phillips, Zero Dark Thirty and Lone Survivor
  • Decision to out himself as 'the shooter' has caused fury at SEAL headquarters and in the Pentagon
  • 'Family man' completed more than 400 combat missions, killed more than 30 targets and is one of the most-decorated SEALs ever
Daily Mail UK, 6 November 2014


The Navy SEAL who shot Osama bin Laden dead in the special force's most famous operation can be named today.
The Navy hero is set to give a full interview to Fox News later this month and waive his anonymity but MailOnline has established that he is Rob O'Neill, a highly-decorated veteran who quit after 16 years service.
In an exclusive interview Rob's father, Tom O'Neill, tells MailOnline, 'People are asking if we are worried that ISIS will come and get us because Rob is going public. I say I'll paint a big target on my front door and say come and get us.'
Rob O'Neill, 38, is a former member of SEAL Team Six who has been portrayed on screen in Zero Dark Thirty, Captain Phillips and Lone Survivor.

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In action: A rare picture of O'Neill as a serviceman shows him in uniform in Liberia, where the Navy was involved in operation to stabilize the war-torn country




Hometown boy: Rob O'Neill is a native of Butte, Montana, and joined up after he was jilted by a sweetheart. He remains proud of his roots in the West




New role: O'Neill is now a regular motivational speaker and spells out a message about planning and training meaning it is possible to execute


He is one of the most distinguished members ever of the elite force - but now faces being frozen out of its circles for revealing its most closely-held secrets.
O'Neill was personally congratulated for killing bin Laden - in his account at close range with three shots to his forehead - during the SEAL raid on Abbottobad, in Pakistan, on 2 May 2011.

Questions have previously been raised over the exact narrative of how bin laden came to die, although the dispute centers on an alternative account which claims O'Neill shot him once, leaving him mortally-wounded and the terrorist was killed by two other SEALs with further shots to the chest rather than forehead.

O'Neill's decision to speak out was prompted by losing some of his military benefits by quitting the SEALs after 16 years rather than staying for a full 20 years of service.

Today details of his extraordinary military record can be disclosed.
O'Neill grew up in Butte, Montana, a former copper mining boomtown that has now fallen on hard times.
Tom O'Neill lives in a single story home with a garage full of stuffed animals — including a bear, moose, caribou, big horn sheep and several deer — shot by the two men. A full stuffed kodiak bear has place of pride in his living room.

O'Neill has said the basic reason he became a SEAL was a teenage romance gone wrong. At 19 he went to a Navy recruiter's office in an attempt to get over his lost love.

But his father gave a different story in his exclusive interview with MailOnline.

'We were going hunting and a friend asked us to take a guy who was a Navy SEAL with us,' said Tom O'Neill, 65. 'We were expecting someone who was 6 ft. 8 in. who could lift a house with his bare hands, but he was this normal guy. And Rob said if this guy could be a SEAL, then so could he.'

In total he was deployed on more than a dozen tours of duty in active combat, in four different warzones, including Iraq and Afghanistan.
In the course of those tours he undertook more than 400 separate combat missions.

He was decorated 52 times, leaving as senior chief petty officer. His decorations include two Silver Stars, four Bronze Stars with Valor, a Joint Service Commendation Medal with Valor, three Presidential Unit citations, and two Navy/Marine Corps Commendations with Valor.

Silver Stars, the military's third highest honor, are awarded for extraordinary gallantry in action against an enemy of the United States.
Bronze Stars with Valor are awarded for merit, signifying a heroic act and direct participation in combat operations.
It is the fourth-highest combat award of the U.S. Armed Forces and the ninth highest military award overall.

Joint Service Commendation Medals are given for senior service on a joint military staff and is the most senior of the commendation medals.

But his father marvels that the one award his son never won was the Purple Heart. 'That's because he was never in action where a colleague was killed or injured.
Details of three of his missions have been turned into Hollywood action hits.





Hollywood version: Zero Dark Thirty portrayed the struggle to find bin Laden and the extraordinary final raid on his hideout in Abbottabad




Lone survivor: O'Neill's SEAL team was featured in the Donnie Wahlberg movie about the only serviceman to return from a mission to kill a Taliban target in Afghanistan


Lone Survivor starring Mark Wahlberg and Eric Bana








At sea: O'Neill was the first SEAL to land on the Maersk Alabama and led to the successful rescue form Somali pirates of Captain Richard Phillips, who was played in the Hollywood hit by Tom Hanks




Real life: Footage of the actual rescue of Captain Phillips from Somali pirates, which was led by O'Neill


He was the lead jumper on the Maersk Alabama, the ship taken over by Somali pirates, whose rescue turned into the Oscar-winning movie Captain Phillips.

'He was the first man out of the bird,' his father remembered proudly.
He helped save SEAL Marcus Luttrell, the one man who lived to tell of a failed mission to capture a Taliban leader in Afghanistan. That made it to the big screen as 'Lone Survivor.'
'He is still friendly with Marcus, they had dinner together just the other day,' said his father.

And then there was 'Zero Dark Thirty,' the Oscar-nominated story of bin Laden's killing.
He will speak fully of his role in that action later in November in the first part of a two-part Fox News interview.

However his decision to speak is at the center of huge controversy.
In a letter to past and present SEALs, Force Master Chief Michael. Magaraci and commander Rear Adm. Brian Losey, made it clear that the vow of silence remains one of the most important tenets of SEAL life.

'A critical tenant (sic) of our Ethos is 'I do not advertise the nature of my work, nor seek recognition for my actions.' Magaraci and Losey wrote.

'Violators of our Ethos are neither Teammates in good standing, nor Teammates who represent Naval Special Warfare.
'We do not abide willful or selfish disregard for our core values in return for public notoriety and financial gain, which only diminishes otherwise honorable service, courage and sacrifice.'


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People are asking if we are worried that ISIS will come and get us because Rob is going public. I say I'll paint a big target on my front door and say come and get us.'My ex-wife gave birth to a man. We shouldn't be cowering in fear
Tom O'Neill, Rob's father
The two leaders made it clear that O'Neill's decision to go public translates into shame among former SEALs, and that he could even face legal action.
'Classified information is protected by law,' they wrote.

'All members exposed to classified information have a duty obligation to protect this information, regardless of what may be reflected in the media, accurately or otherwise.
'We will actively seek judicial consequence for members who willfully violate the law, and place our Teammates, our Families, and potential future operations at risk.'

O'Neill's father says he cannot understand the fuss. 'He is not allowed to talk, yet they are using this big bullhorn to shut him up,' he said.
'I support him in everything he is doing,' said the twice-divorced older man.
'What are you supposed to do when you come out of the military after such service — become a greeter at Walmart?'
He added: 'People are asking if we are worried that ISIS will come and get us because Rob is going public. I say I'll paint a big target on my front door and say come and get us.
'My ex-wife gave birth to a man. We shouldn't be cowering in fear.'

For O'Neill, the threat is a devastating fall from a position as a national — if unknown — hero.
Although he had previously been interviewed about the shooting of bin Laden, he remained entirely discreet about his role.
However being an unsung hero was not enough. He showed that in a biography prepared for a course in hostage rescue he was instructing in his home state of Montana.

'With most of his career shrouded in a classified cloak. O'Neill was the man on the ground we have never heard of but know exists,' it read.





Lair: Bin Laden in his hide-out before SEAL Team Six were sent in to kill him. The al Qaeda leader was discovered by years of careful CIA work and two helicopters were scrambled to deploy the servicemen




Aftermath: Crowds gathered outside the Abottabad compound after the daring mission to kill bin Laden, which took place under the cloak of darkness. O'Neill saw it all through night vision goggles




Bloodied: the aftermath of the raid showed some suggestion of what had happened as O'Neill and his team stormed the compound. His three shots to bin Laden's head killed the terror chief dead instantly and the SEALs then took his body with them. He was buried at sea to avoid creating a place of pilgrimage for other fanatics




Close to death: One of the helicopters crashed on landing as the 23 SEALS began the raid, and an air strike was called in to destroy it




Mission: Senior White House figures including vice-president Joe Biden (far left) and then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, joining President Obama to watch the mission in Pakistan unfold. O'Neill fired three bullets into bin Laden's head, killing him instantly


'He was one of the quiet professionals performing the most difficult tasks in the most difficult circumstances, serving his remarkable career in the shadows and keeping America safe in the process.'

He agreed to be interviewed on a Fox News special next week called 'The Man Who Killed Osama bin Laden. In it he will talk of his training, and detail the mission to take out the al Qaeda leader.
It follows last year's Esquire magazine interview —by Sharon Stone's ex-husband Phil Bronstein — in which his identity was kept secret. He was referred to only as 'The Shooter.'

He used the interview to raise concerns about how veterans - including himself - were treated. The interview, which was published in March 2013, began with a meeting in April 2012 as he prepared to leave the Navy.
He was especially worried about losing healthcare and pension benefits because he was leaving the service early.


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NEVER QUIT: HOW ROB O'NEILL ADVERTISES AS A SPEAKER

O'Neill is represented by a speaking agency which promotes him for engagements around the country.
Its bigraphy of him notes: 'He was a team leader with the Naval Special Warfare Development Group.
With most of his career shrouded in a classified cloak, O’Neill was the man on the ground we have never heard of but know exists.
He was one of the quiet professionals performing the most difficult tasks in the most difficult circumstances, serving his remarkable career in the shadows and keeping America safe in the process.
In his line of work, instant, critical decision-making is an absolute necessity for success, and he has proven experience in exceptionally high-risk and fluid environments.
O’Neill brings this unique expertise to organizations and translates his elite SEAL team training into high-impact, actionable insights on leadership, decision-making, operating in uncertain environments, and how to become the "best of the best".
His mantra is “never quit,” and O’Neill believes this is the single most important factor in determining success.'
But deciding to speak publicly may surprise some. In the Esquire interview his wife spoke about her concerns over a retaliatory attack.
'Personally I feel more threatened by a potential retaliatory terror attack on our community than I did eight years ago,' his wife said in 2013.
At the time the couple were estranged. Their marital status is now unclear.
'We're actually looking into changing my name,' his wife.
'Changing the kids' names, taking my husband's name off the house, paying off our cars. Essentially deleting him from our lives, but for safety reasons. We still love each other.'
O'Neill also described how he had instructed his wife in how to protect their children, and jep a 'blot bag' ready in case they had to flee at any time.
Despite his 16 years of service, O'Neill told the magazine that the SEALs had offered to get him a job delivering beer in Michigan, which he compared to witness protection for Mafia turncoats.
Instead he has become a motivational speaker with an official biography which details a very generic version of his exploits.
He has fulfilled a series of engagements across the United States since leaving the military.
Organizations he has addressed have praised him for the quality of his speech.
One noted that he was speaking to them on 2 May 2013 - the second anniversary of the death of bin Laden, and not knowing his involvement in the most famous of all SEAL operations said: 'God Bless America.'





Life lessons: O'Neill now specializes in passing on what he has learned from his missions to audiences which have included the American Supply Association, a conference on composites, and a wealth management conference at which he said: 'Fear is healthy- panic will kill you.'




Success: O'Neill has had a series of speaking engagements, all of them about applying the lessons of his time in the SEALs to business decision making with tops including: 'Preparation comes from planning, repetition and communication'


O'Neill is now the second SEAL of the 23 involved in the raid to make his identity public.
The other is Matthew Bisonnette, who wrote an inside account of the mission that killed Osama bin Laden.Bissonnette released his controversial book No Easy Day in 2012 - under the pen-name Mark Owen - and immediately faced the ire of the Pentagon and fellow SEALs.


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Questions have been raised over O'Neill's version of events when he first conducted the interview with Esquire where he went under the pseudonym 'The Shooter'.
At the time a serving SEAL was quoted as disputing The Shooter's account that he had killed bin Laden with three shots.
The SEAL - who was anonymous - said that The Shooter had shot bin Laden once in the head as he pointed his head out the door of the room on the top floor where he was hiding - but in fact did not kill him.
The Shooter then rushed two women who were in the bedroom and wrapped his arms around them to stop them detonating any suicide vests which the SEALS feared they might be wearing.
Two more SEALS then rushed into the room and saw a mortally-wounded bin Laden lying on the floor, the SEAL said, then shot him in the chest.
CNN said at the time that their account came from a 'serving SEAL Team Six' operator -although it did not say if he was on the raid.



This week he told CBS that hings have been so bad him that he'd rather personally take on the Islamic State.

'I would go back overseas today and deal with fighting ISIS face-to-face rather than deal with the last two years again,' he said on Sunday.

Bissonnette's surprising statement came as he continued to defend himself against claims he somehow knowingly endangered his fellow SEALs, and even America's safety as a whole, by divulging classified information.

'That's absolutely not what I intended to do. These are my brothers that I served beside for years,' he said.

Bissonnette told CBS he believed at the time of his book's publication that he was acting totally within the law.

However, now Bissonnette says he was following the advice of his attorney at the time when he chose to forego submitting his manuscript to the Pentagon before it went to print.

'I [wanted] to reach out to my former command and say, "Hey, look, sir, let's discuss. I have nothing to hide,"' he said. 'I got a text message back just simply saying, you know, "Delete me."'

With so much venom flying his way, the former soldier says he's had to change his habits in hopes of calling as little attention to himself as possible.

'I fly a little further underneath the radar than I ever have before. I don't want anybody to know where I live,' he said. 'I want to be very cautious - security wise.'

Now, as he prepares to publish a sequel to his dangerous tome, his lawyer has revealed a vast proportion of the profits could be soaked up by extensive fines leveled by the Pentagon.


Preview: Navy SEAL Mark Owen in CBS 60 Minutes: Under Fire








Bissonnette, right, says even his former commander has washed his hands of him in the wake of his book controversey


The latest probe centers on the speeches Bissonnette has made since publishing his tell-all book under the pseudonym Mark Owen, The New York Times revealed.
It comes after Bissonnette submitted a draft of his second book - No Hero: The Evolution Of A Navy SEAL - for approval from the Department of Defense, including slides and notes from his speeches.

He has already apologized for failing to seek approval for his revelations in No Easy Day, and allegedly agreed to forfeit a portion of his royalties in a dispute settlement.

However, another probe has been launched to investigate details disclosed at speeches across the U.S.

Last year, he spoke at a golf club in Atlanta where visitors were instructed to deposit their phones at the door and were barred from taking notes.
His lawyer Robert D Luskin insists the speeches were not controversial and says he expects the investigation to be resolved 'favorably'.

Bissonnette was disciplined in November 2012 for sharing classified information with the makers of the popular video game Medal of Honor: Warfighter.

According to senior Navy officials, Bissonnette recruited his fellow SEALs to spend two days as paid consultants for Electronic Arts.

It was the investigation the military launched into Bissonnette's book that led the authorities to discover that he had allegedly 'recruited' the 11 Navy SEALS into the video game deal.

His second piece of work is a reaction to the Oscar-nominated film Zero Dark Thirty, which consulted former CIA director Leon E Panetta.
The narrative conflicted with many elements of Bissonnette's telling, and in his opinion it is the SEALs' story to tell.

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Bin Laden's Disdain for The West Grew in Shakespeare's Birthplace > Journal Reports

CIA Released Journal as Part of 470,000 Documents Collected From Bin Laden’s House, Showing He Visited the UK as a Teenager and Found it to be ‘Decadent’...

Osama bin Laden’s described visiting Shakespeare’s home but said he was ‘not impressed’ by British society and culture...


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In this 1998 file photo made available on 19 March 2004, Osama bin Laden is seen at a news conference in Khost, Afghanistan. The CIA's release of documents seized during the 2011 raid that killed al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden has again raised questions about Iran's support of the extremist network leading up to the Sept.11 terror attacks.

U.S. intelligence officials and prosecutors have long said Iran formed loose ties to the terror organization from 1991 on, something noted in a 19-page report in Arabic included in the release of some 47,000 other documents by the CIA. Iran always has denied any links. (AP Photo/Mazhar Ali Khan, File)....






Today we released nearly 470,000 files recovered in 2011 raid on Usama Bin Ladin’s compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan. > CIA. 9:41am, 1 Nov 2017.



A summer trip to the UK as a teenager and visits to Shakespeare’s birthplace convinced Osama bin Laden that the west was “decadent”, the late leader of al-Qaida and architect of the 9/11 attacks wrote in his personal journal shortly before he was killed by US special forces in 2011.





The house in which Shakespeare was born in Stratford-upon-Avon.



The journal is among 470,000 documents collected from the house where Bin Laden died that were released by the CIA on Wednesday. The agency said it had released the treasure trove “in the interest of transparency and to enhance public understanding of al-Qaida and [bin Laden].”

Though there have been previous reports that Bin Laden travelled to the west, this is the first confirmation.

An entry in the nondescript school notebook describes how Bin Laden first travelled to “the west” for an unspecified “treatment” when he was in “sixth grade” and 13 years old.

The following year the teenager, the wealthy son of a billionaire Saudi construction tycoon, spent 10 weeks in Britain “studying”. Bin Laden gives no further details, but he has previously been reported to have taken an English language course at Oxford.

In the journal, Bin Laden briefly describes visiting the home of William Shakespeare in Stratford-upon-Avon but says he was “not impressed” by British society and culture during his time in the UK.

“I got the impression that they were a loose people, and my age didn’t allow me to form a complete picture of life there,” he wrote. “We went every Sunday to visit Shakespeare’s house. I was not impressed and I saw that they were a society different from ours and that they were a morally loose society.

The journal was bought in a well-known bookshop in Pakistan a few hours drive from the garrison town of Abbottabad, where Bin Laden spent five years with his family before his death.

The journal appears to be partially written by Bin Laden’s son, Khalid, who was also killed in the Navy Seal raid, and sometimes takes the form of a question and answer session between father and son.

The journal entries are at times apocalyptic, describing the two men’s dreams and visions, including a scenario in which Muslim countries unite after the revolutions and peace is established with the west – a prelude to the end times in some branches of Islamic theology.

At other times, Bin Laden appears more practical, discussing recommendations for al-Qaida’s messaging in the aftermath of the revolutions to better capitalize on rising Islamist sentiments and to take advantage of the wave of popular unrest.

Bin Laden’s mention of his feelings towards the west after his time in Britain will interest experts. Most accounts of his life say he was radicalised as a student and later when he became engaged as a volunteer organiser for Arab foreign fighters taking part in the war against the Soviets in Afghanistan from around 1981.

The US government has released hundreds of documents over recent years, though this is the largest such release.

The US-based website, The Long War Journal, received some material in advance and reported that the documents give new details of al-Qaida’s relationship with Iran.

One 19-page document contains a senior militant’s assessment of the group’s relationship with Iran, which describes an offer by Iran to provide some unidentified “Saudi brothers” with “money, arms” and “training in Hezbollah camps in Lebanon, in exchange for striking American interests in Saudi Arabia and the Gulf”.


It is not known if the offer was accepted – if it was made at all – and the inclusion of the document will raise suspicion that one motive for the release of the new hoard was to place material that casts Iran in a bad light in the public domain.

Mike Pompeo, the latest Trump-appointed director of the CIA, has a reputation for an aggressively hawkish stance on Iran.


It has been known for some time that scores of senior al-Qaida officials and their families were held in Iran after fleeing there in the aftermath of 2011. However, the relationship between the detained militants and their captors was tense, and no solid evidence of active cooperation on terrorist operations has yet emerged.

Among the material released by the CIA was some which suggested Bin Laden’s time in the UK may have had a deeper influence than he may have admitted.

Loaded on one computer was video of the Rowan Atkinson comedy Mr Bean dubbed in Pashtu, the local language in western Pakistan and eastern Afghanistan, and episodes of the animated programme Wallace and Gromit.

There were also more than 30 videos on crocheting.
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What Did US Forces Find on Osama bin Laden’s Bookshelf?

Independent UK, 28 Feb 2018.





It appears the former al-Qaeda leader liked to indulge in serious politics and conspiracy theories. Robert Fisk
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As novelist Walter Mosley has pointed out, a person’s bookcase tells you everything you need to know about them. Sadly, many of the books that will be mentioned in this column are no longer in print. Happily, second-hand bookshops still stock the majority of these titles, while Project Gutenberg and the Internet Archive often provide free online alternatives.

We begin the journey with; ...


Bin Laden’s Bookshelf

Handbook of International Law
Anthony Aust

Civil Democratic Islam: Partners, Resources, and Strategies
Cheryl Benard

Killing Hope: US Military and CIA Interventions since World War II
William Blum

Rogue State: A Guide to the World’s Only Superpower
William Blum

Necessary Illusions: Thought Control in Democratic Societies
Noam Chomsky

Fortifying Pakistan: The Role of US Internal Security Assistance (only the book’s introduction)
Christine Fair and Peter Chalk

Hegemony or Survival: America’s Quest for Global Dominance

Noam Chomsky

America’s ‘War on Terrorism’

Michel Chossudovsky

Conspirators’ Hierarchy: The Committee of 300

John Coleman

New Political Religions, or Analysis of Modern Terrorism

Barry Cooper

Guerilla Air Defense: Antiaircraft Weapons and Techniques for Guerilla Forces

James Crabtree

New Pearl Harbor: Disturbing Questions about the Bush Administration and 9/11
David Ray Griffin

Christianity and Islam in Spain 756–1031 AD

CR Haines

The Secret Teachings of All Ages

Manly Hall

Black Box Voting, Ballot Tampering in the 21st Century

Bev Harris

The US and Vietnam 1787–1941

Robert Hopkins Miller

Military Intelligence Blunders

John Hughes-Wilson

A Brief Guide to Understanding Islam

IA Ibrahim






No light reading: works by critics of the US government like Noam Chomsky appear to have been preferred (Alamy)



International Relations Theory and the Asia-Pacific
John Ikenberry and Michael Mastandano

The Rise and Fall of the Great Powers

Paul Kennedy

In Pursuit of Allah’s Pleasure

Asim Abdul Maajid, Esaam-udDeen and Dr Naahah Ibrahim

The 2030 Spike

Colin Mason

America’s Strategic Blunders

Willard Matthias

Secrets of the Federal Reserve

Eustace Mullins

Unfinished Business, US Overseas Military Presence in the 21st Century

Michael O’Hanlon

Confessions of an Economic Hit Man

John Perkins

The Best Democracy Money Can Buy

Greg Palast

Bounding the Global War on Terror

Jeffrey Record

Al-Qaeda’s Online Media Strategies: From Abu Reuter to Irhabi 007

Hanna Rogan

Crossing the Rubicon

Michael Ruppert

Imperial Hubris

Michael Scheuer






Finding theories: a book by investigative reporter Greg Palast also makes the list (Rex)



Checking Iran’s Nuclear Ambitions
Henry Sokolski and Patrick Clawson

The Taking of America 1-2-3

Richard Sprague

Bloodlines of the Illuminati

Fritz Springmeier

The Best Enemy Money Can Buy

Anthony Sutton

Oxford History of Modern War

Charles Townsend

Obama’s Wars

Bob Woodward


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Not only did the US Navy Seals who raided the Abbottabad compound in Pakistan in 2011 find Osama bin Laden, they also discovered his collection of books.
These reading materials are being analysed and gradually made public by the US government under the title of “Bin Laden’s Bookshelf” and the above is a list of the English-language books found at his home, all digital copies rather than printed.

There is no light reading here. Instead of laughing at Bertie Wooster’s controversial choice of purple socks, the head of al-Qaeda seems to have preferred high-profile critics of the US government such as Chomsky and Palast, while concentrating entirely on serious politics, law and, especially, conspiracy theories.

Among these are the chronicles of the ongoing activities of the Illuminati, the running of the USA by shadowy cabals (take your pick of a Power Control Group, elite financiers or 300 chosen families), and that 9/11 was organised or at the very least allowed to happen by the US government.





Bin Laden was killed at his Abbottabad base in 2011 (Reuters)


Interestingly, Michael Scheuer, who wrote Imperial Hubris (included in this list), once ran the CIA’s Bin Laden tracking unit. The full collection also contains dozens of reports and think tank publications on al-Qaeda and similar groups, such as The 9/11 Commission Report, the official account of the terrorist attacks.

The US authorities have not given any precise details about where the books were found in the residence or what was on his “to read” pile on his bedside table.

A second list features titles which may have been read by Bin Laden, but according to the US government were probably used by other people living in the compound. This is a more eclectic selection and includes The Grappler’s Guide to Sports Nutrition by John Berardi and Michael Fry, the 2008 Guinness Book of World Records (Children’s Edition), Is It the Heart Which You Are Asking? (a suicide prevention guide), and a guide to the Delta Force Xtreme 2 first-person shooter video game. There were also a couple of Arabic-English dictionaries and the December 2010 Popular Science magazine’s “Best Innovations of the Year” issue.

*This is a real list of the books that were found by US forces in Bin Laden’s compound. Future columns might look at titles owned by fictional characters and may include works that were never completed.
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My Son, Osama: First Interview With al-Qaida Leader’s Mother

The Guardian UK, 23 Aug 2018.



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Qaida leader’s mother speaks for the first time


Nearly 17 years since 9/11, Osama bin Laden’s family remains an influential part of Saudi society – as well as a reminder of the darkest moment in the kingdom’s history. Can they escape his legacy?


In the corner couch of a spacious room, a woman wearing a brightly patterned robe sits expectantly. The red hijab that covers her hair is reflected in a glass-fronted cabinet; inside, a framed photograph of her firstborn son takes pride of place between family heirlooms and valuables. A smiling, bearded figure wearing a military jacket, he features in photographs around the room: propped against the wall at her feet, resting on a mantlepiece.

A supper of Saudi meze and a lemon cheesecake has been spread out on a large wooden dining table. Alia Ghanem is Osama bin Laden’s mother, and she commands the attention of everyone in the room. On chairs nearby sit two of her surviving sons, Ahmad and Hassan, and her second husband, Mohammed al-Attas, the man who raised all three brothers.

Everyone in the family has their own story to tell about the man linked to the rise of global terrorism; but it is Ghanem who holds court today, describing a man who is, to her, still a beloved son who somehow lost his way. “My life was very difficult because he was so far away from me,” she says, speaking confidently. “He was a very good kid and he loved me so much.”

Now in her mid-70s and in variable health, Ghanem points at al-Attas – a lean, fit man dressed, like his two sons, in an immaculately pressed white thobe, a gown worn by men across the Arabian peninsula. “He raised Osama from the age of three. He was a good man, and he was good to Osama.”


The family have gathered in a corner of the mansion they now share in Jeddah, the Saudi Arabian city that has been home to the Bin Laden clan for generations. They remain one of the kingdom’s wealthiest families: their dynastic construction empire built much of modern Saudi Arabia, and is deeply woven into the country’s establishment.

The Bin Laden home reflects their fortune and influence, a large spiral staircase at its centre leading to cavernous rooms. Ramadan has come and gone, and the bowls of dates and chocolates that mark the three-day festival that follows it sit on tabletops throughout the house. Large manors line the rest of the street; this is well-to-do Jeddah, and while no guard stands watch outside, the Bin Ladens are the neighbourhood’s best-known residents.

For years, Ghanem has refused to talk about Osama, as has his wider family – throughout his two-decade reign as al-Qaida leader, a period that saw the strikes on New York and Washington DC, and ended more than nine years later with his death in Pakistan.

Now, Saudi Arabia’s new leadership – spearheaded by the ambitious 32-year-old heir to the throne, Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman – has agreed to my request to speak to the family. (As one of the country’s most influential families, their movements and engagements remain closely monitored.)

Osama’s legacy is as grave a blight on the kingdom as it is on his family, and senior officials believe that, by allowing the Bin Ladens to tell their story, they can demonstrate that an outcast – not an agent – was responsible for 9/11. Saudi Arabia’s critics have long alleged that Osama had state support, and the families of a number of 9/11 victims have launched (so far unsuccessful) legal actions against the kingdom. Fifteen of the 19 hijackers came from Saudi Arabia.

Unsurprisingly, Osama bin Laden’s family are cautious in our initial negotiations; they are not sure whether opening old wounds will prove cathartic or harmful. But after several days of discussion, they are willing to talk. When we meet on a hot day in early June, a minder from the Saudi government sits in the room, though she makes no attempt to influence the conversation. (We are also joined by a translator.)

'He met some people who pretty much brainwashed him in his early 20s. You can call it a cult'

Sitting between Osama’s half-brothers, Ghanem recalls her firstborn as a shy boy who was academically capable. He became a strong, driven, pious figure in his early 20s, she says, while studying economics at King Abdulaziz University in Jeddah, where he was also radicalised. “The people at university changed him,” Ghanem says. “He became a different man.” One of the men he met there was Abdullah Azzam, a member of the Muslim Brotherhood who was later exiled from Saudi Arabia and became Osama’s spiritual adviser.


“He was a very good child until he met some people who pretty much brainwashed him in his early 20s. You can call it a cult. They got money for their cause. I would always tell him to stay away from them, and he would never admit to me what he was doing, because he loved me so much.”


In the early 1980s, Osama travelled to Afghanistan to fight the Russian occupation. “Everyone who met him in the early days respected him,” says Hassan, picking up the story. “At the start, we were very proud of him. Even the Saudi government would treat him in a very noble, respectful way. And then came Osama the mujahid.”

A long uncomfortable silence follows, as Hassan struggles to explain the transformation from zealot to global jihadist. “I am very proud of him in the sense that he was my oldest brother,” he eventually continues. “He taught me a lot. But I don’t think I’m very proud of him as a man. He reached superstardom on a global stage, and it was all for nothing.”

Ghanem listens intently, becoming more animated when the conversation returns to Osama’s formative years. “He was very straight. Very good at school. He really liked to study. He spent all his money on Afghanistan – he would sneak off under the guise of family business.” Did she ever suspect he might become a jihadist? “It never crossed my mind.” How did it feel when she realised he had? “We were extremely upset. I did not want any of this to happen. Why would he throw it all away like that?”

The family say they last saw Osama in Afghanistan in 1999, a year in which they visited him twice at his base just outside Kandahar. “It was a place near the airport that they had captured from the Russians,” Ghanem says. “He was very happy to receive us. He was showing us around every day we were there. He killed an animal and we had a feast, and he invited everyone.”

Ghanem begins to relax, and talks about her childhood in the coastal Syrian city of Latakia, where she grew up in a family of Alawites, an offshoot of Shia Islam. Syrian cuisine is superior to Saudi, she says, and so is the weather by the Mediterranean, where the warm, wet summer air was a stark contrast to the acetylene heat of Jeddah in June. Ghanem moved to Saudi Arabia in the mid-1950s, and Osama was born in Riyadh in 1957.
She divorced his father three years later, and married al-Attas, then an administrator in the fledgling Bin Laden empire, in the early 1960s.

Osama’s father went on to have 54 children with at least 11 wives.


When Ghanem leaves to rest in a nearby room, Osama’s half-brothers continue the conversation. It’s important, they say, to remember that a mother is rarely an objective witness. “It has been 17 years now [since 9/11] and she remains in denial about Osama,” Ahmad says. “She loved him so much and refuses to blame him. Instead, she blames those around him. She only knows the good boy side, the side we all saw. She never got to know the jihadist side.

“I was shocked, stunned,” he says now of the early reports from New York. “It was a very strange feeling. We knew from the beginning [that it was Osama], within the first 48 hours. From the youngest to the eldest, we all felt ashamed of him. We knew all of us were going to face horrible consequences. Our family abroad all came back to Saudi.”

They had been scattered across Syria, Lebanon, Egypt and Europe. “In Saudi, there was a travel ban. They tried as much as they could to maintain control over the family.” The family say they were all questioned by the authorities and, for a time, prevented from leaving the country. Nearly two decades on, the Bin Ladens can move relatively freely within and outside the kingdom.

Osama bin Laden’s formative years in Jeddah came in the relatively freewheeling 1970s, before the Iranian Revolution of 1979, which aimed to export Shia zeal into the Sunni Arab world. From then on, Saudi’s rulers enforced a rigid interpretation of Sunni Islam – one that had been widely practised across the Arabian peninsula since the 18th century, the era of cleric Muhammed ibn Abdul Wahhab. In 1744, Abdul Wahhab had made a pact with the then ruler Mohammed bin Saud, allowing his family to run affairs of state while hardline clerics defined the national character.

The modern day kingdom, proclaimed in 1932, left both sides – the clerics and the rulers – too powerful to take the other on, locking the state and its citizens into a society defined by arch-conservative views: the strict segregation of non-related men and women; uncompromising gender roles; an intolerance of other faiths; and an unfailing adherence to doctrinal teachings, all rubber-stamped by the House of Saud.

Many believe this alliance directly contributed to the rise of global terrorism. Al-Qaida’s worldview – and that of its offshoot, Islamic State (Isis) – were largely shaped by Wahhabi scriptures; and Saudi clerics were widely accused of encouraging a jihadist movement that grew throughout the 1990s, with Osama bin Laden at its centre.

Reform is beginning to creep through Saudi society; the ban on women drivers has been lifted, cinemas have opened

In 2018, Saudi’s new leadership wants to draw a line under this era and introduce what bin Salman calls “moderate Islam”. This he sees as essential to the survival of a state where a large, restless and often disaffected young population has, for nearly four decades, had little access to entertainment, a social life or individual freedoms. Saudi’s new rulers believe such rigid societal norms, enforced by clerics, could prove fodder for extremists who tap into such feelings of frustration.

Reform is beginning to creep through many aspects of Saudi society; among the most visible was June’s lifting of the ban on women drivers. There have been changes to the labour markets and a bloated public sector; cinemas have opened, and an anti-corruption drive launched across the private sector and some quarters of government. The government also claims to have stopped all funding to Wahhabi institutions outside the kingdom, which had been supported with missionary zeal for nearly four decades.



Such radical shock therapy is slowly being absorbed across the country, where communities conditioned to decades of uncompromising doctrine don’t always know what to make of it. Contradictions abound: some officials and institutions eschew conservatism, while others wholeheartedly embrace it. Meanwhile, political freedoms remain off-limits; power has become more centralised and dissent is routinely crushed.

Bin Laden’s legacy remains one of the kingdom’s most pressing issues. I meet Prince Turki al-Faisal, who was the head of Saudi intelligence for 24 years, between 1977 and 1 September 2001 (10 days before the 9/11 attacks), at his villa in Jeddah. An erudite man now in his mid-70s, Turki wears green cufflinks bearing the Saudi flag on the sleeves of his thobe.

“There are two Osama bin Ladens,” he tells me. “One before the end of the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan, and one after it. Before, he was very much an idealistic mujahid. He was not a fighter. By his own admission, he fainted during a battle, and when he woke up, the Soviet assault on his position had been defeated.”

As Bin Laden moved from Afghanistan to Sudan, and as his links to Saudi Arabia soured, it was Turki who spoke with him on behalf of the kingdom. In the wake of 9/11, these direct dealings came under intense scrutiny. Then – and 17 years later – relatives of some of the 2,976 killed and more than 6,000 wounded in New York and Washington DC refuse to believe that a country that had exported such an arch-conservative form of the faith could have nothing to do with the consequences.

Certainly, Bin Laden travelled to Afghanistan with the knowledge and backing of the Saudi state, which opposed the Soviet occupation; along with America, the Saudis armed and supported those groups who fought it. The young mujahid had taken a small part of the family fortune with him, which he used to buy influence.

When he returned to Jeddah, emboldened by battle and the Soviet defeat, he was a different man, Turki says. “He developed a more political attitude from 1990. He wanted to evict the communists and South Yemeni Marxists from Yemen. I received him, and told him it was better that he did not get involved. The mosques of Jeddah were using the Afghan example.” By this, Turki means the narrowly defined reading of the faith espoused by the Taliban. “He was inciting them [Saudi worshippers]. He was told to stop.”

“He had a poker face,” Turki continues. “He never grimaced, or smiled. In 1992, 1993, there was a huge meeting in Peshawar organised by Nawaz Sharif’s government.” Bin Laden had by this point been given refuge by Afghan tribal leaders. “There was a call for Muslim solidarity, to coerce those leaders of the Muslim world to stop going at each other’s throats. I also saw him there. Our eyes met, but we didn’t talk. He didn’t go back to the kingdom. He went to Sudan, where he built a honey business and financed a road.”

Bin Laden’s advocacy increased in exile. “He used to fax statements to everybody. He was very critical. There were efforts by the family to dissuade him – emissaries and such – but they were unsuccessful. It was probably his feeling that he was not taken seriously by the government.”

By 1996, Bin Laden was back in Afghanistan. Turki says the kingdom knew it had a problem and wanted him returned. He flew to Kandahar to meet with the then head of the Taliban, Mullah Omar. “He said, ‘I am not averse to handing him over, but he was very helpful to the Afghan people.’ He said Bin Laden was granted refuge according to Islamic dictates.”

Two years later, in September 1998, Turki flew again to Afghanistan, this time to be robustly rebuffed. “At that meeting, he was a changed man,” he says of Omar. “Much more reserved, sweating profusely. Instead of taking a reasonable tone, he said, ‘How can you persecute this worthy man who dedicated his life to helping Muslims?’” Turki says he warned Omar that what he was doing would harm the people of Afghanistan, and left.

The family visit to Kandahar took place the following year, and came after a US missile strike on one of Bin Laden’s compounds – a response to al-Qaida attacks on US embassies in Tanzania and Kenya. It seems an entourage of immediate family had little trouble finding their man, where the Saudi and western intelligence networks could not.

According to officials in Riyadh, London and Washington DC, Bin Laden had by then become the world’s number one counter-terrorism target, a man who was bent on using Saudi citizens to drive a wedge between eastern and western civilisations. “There is no doubt that he deliberately chose Saudi citizens for the 9/11 plot,” a British intelligence officer tells me. “He was convinced that was going to turn the west against his ... home country. He did indeed succeed in inciting a war, but not the one he expected.”

Turki claims that in the months before 9/11, his intelligence agency knew that something troubling was being planned. “In the summer of 2001, I took one of the warnings about something spectacular about to happen to the Americans, British, French and Arabs. We didn’t know where, but we knew that something was being brewed.”

Bin Laden remains a popular figure in some parts of the country, lauded by those who believe he did God’s work. The depth of support, however, is difficult to gauge. What remains of his immediate family, meanwhile, has been allowed back into the kingdom: at least two of Osama’s wives (one of whom was with him in Abbottabad when he was killed by US special forces) and their children now live in Jeddah.

“We had a very good relationship with Mohammed bin Nayef [the former crown prince],” Osama’s half-brother Ahmad tells me as a maid sets the nearby dinner table. “He let the wives and children return.” But while they have freedom of movement inside the city, they cannot leave the kingdom.

Osama's son Hamza may well cloud the family’s attempts to shake off their past


Osama’s mother rejoins the conversation. “I speak to his harem most weeks,” she says. “They live nearby.”

Osama’s half-sister, and the two men’s sister, Fatima al-Attas, was not at our meeting. From her home in Paris, she later emailed to say she strongly objected to her mother being interviewed, asking that it be rearranged through her. Despite the blessing of her brothers and father, she felt her mother had been pressured into talking. Ghanem, however, insisted she was happy to talk and could have talked longer. It is, perhaps, a sign of the extended family’s complicated status in the kingdom that such tensions exist.

I ask the family about Bin Laden’s youngest son, 29-year-old Hamza, who is thought to be in Afghanistan. Last year, he was officially designated a “global terrorist” by the US and appears to have taken up the mantle of his father, under the auspices of al-Qaida’s new leader, and Osama’s former deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri.


His uncles shake their heads.
“We thought everyone was over this,” Hassan says. “Then the next thing I knew, Hamza was saying, ‘I am going to avenge my father.’ I don’t want to go through that again. If Hamza was in front of me now, I would tell him, ‘God guide you. Think twice about what you are doing. Don’t retake the steps of your father. You are entering horrible parts of your soul.’”


Hamza bin Laden’s continued rise may well cloud the family’s attempts to shake off their past. It may also hinder the crown prince’s efforts to shape a new era in which Bin Laden is cast as a generational aberration, and in which the hardline doctrines once sanctioned by the kingdom no longer offer legitimacy to extremism.

While change has been attempted in Saudi Arabia before, it has been nowhere near as extensive as the current reforms. How hard Mohammed bin Salman can push against a society indoctrinated in such an uncompromising worldview remains an open question.


Saudia Arabia’s allies are optimistic, but offer a note of caution. The British intelligence officer I spoke to told me, “If Salman doesn’t break through, there will be many more Osamas. And I’m not sure they’ll be able to shake the curse.”

END


Hamza bin Laden Has Married Daughter of Lead 9/11 Hijacker, say Family

Exclusive: union confirmed by Osama bin Laden’s family during interview with the Guardian






Hamza bin Laden, the son of the late al-Qaida leader, has married the daughter of Mohammed Atta, the lead hijacker in the 9/11 terror attacks, according to his family.



The union was mentioned by Osama bin Laden’s half-brothers during an interview with the Guardian. Ahmad and Hassan al-Attas said they believed Hamza had taken a senior position within al-Qaida and was aiming to avenge the death of his father, shot dead during a US military raid in Pakistan seven years ago.

Hamza bin Laden is the son of one of Osama bin Laden’s three surviving wives, Khairiah Sabar, who was living with her husband in a compound in Abbottabad, near a large Pakistani military base, when he was killed. He has since made public statements urging followers to wage war on Washington, London, Paris and Tel Aviv and is seen as a deputy to the terrorist group’s current leader, Ayman al-Zawahiri.

“We have heard he has married the daughter of Mohammed Atta,” said Ahmad al-Attas. “We’re not sure where he is, but it could be Afghanistan.”

Western intelligence agencies have been increasingly focusing on the whereabouts of Hamza bin Laden over the past two years, seeing him as more likely than anyone else to galvanise followers. His marriage to the daughter of Atta, an Egyptian national, appears to confirm that the 9/11 alumni remains a central hub of al-Qaida and that the organisation itself continues to be organised around Osama bin Laden’s legacy.

Another of Bin Laden’s sons, Khalid, was killed in the US raid in Abbottabad. A third, Saad, was killed in a drone strike in Afghanistan in 2009. Letters purportedly written by Osama bin Laden and seized from the compound suggested he was grooming Hamza to replace him, partly to avenge the death of Saad.

Bin Laden’s wives and surviving children have returned to Saudi Arabia, where they were given refuge by the former crown prince Mohammed bin Nayef. The women and children remain in close contact with Bin Laden’s mother, Alia Ghanem, who told the Guardian in an interview that she remained in regular touch with surviving family members.

“When we thought everyone was over this, next thing I knew was Hamza saying I am going to avenge my father,” said Hassan al-Attas. “I don’t want to go through that again.

“If Hamza was in front of me now, I would tell him: God guide you. Think twice about what you are doing. Don’t retake the steps of your father. You are entering really negative and horrible parts of your soul.”

The family claimed they did not have any contact with Osama bin Laden from 1999 until his death in 2011. They said they had not heard from Hamza bin Laden nor received any messages from him.

In recognition of his apparent status within al-Qaida, the US government labelled him a specially designated global terrorist in January 2017, meaning his assets could be blocked and anyone who dealt with him faced arrest.

The family’s claim will come as a surprise to many, and is impossible to confirm. Atta was previously thought to have been a prude with no known marriages, or children, before he died piloting American airlines Flight 11 into the North Tower of the World Trade Centre. Some accounts of his adult life had portrayed him as an avowed virgin.

The will Atta left, five years before the attack, made no mention of dependents, though any child would likely have been born closer to 2001. He is believed to have spent many months in 2000 in Afghanistan during the decisive moments of the plot to strike New York and Washington. Next to nothing is known of his movements during that time.

Hamza bin Laden is know to have spent many years after the attacks in Iran, where he and dozens of other family members of the 9/11 plotters were guarded by senior Iranian intelligence and military officials. The group was at times in effect under house arrest and other times free to move around. Hamza was mentored in Iran by Abu al-Khayr al-Masri, who was deputy to al-Zawahiri after the death of Osama bin Laden. Al-Masri was released by Iran and taken to the Turkish border, from where he crossed into Syria. He was killed by a US drone in Idlib province in February 2017.

Some reports at the time suggested Hamza had also travelled to Syria. However, he is believed to have instead made his way to the tribal territories between Afghanistan and Pakistan.
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Bin Laden: US Offers Reward for Osama's Son Hamza

The United States is offering a reward of up to $1m (£750,000) for information about one of the sons of the late al-Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden.

BBC 1 Mar 2019





Hamza Bin Laden's whereabouts are not known...


Hamza Bin Laden is emerging as a leader of the Islamist militant group, officials say.
He is thought to be based near the Afghan-Pakistani border
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In recent years, he has released audio and video messages calling on followers to attack the US and its Western allies in revenge for his father's killing.

In 2011, US special forces killed Osama Bin Laden in a compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan. He approved the attacks on the US on 11 September 2001, in which nearly 3,000 people were killed.


What is Known About Him?

Hamza Bin Laden, who is believed to be about 30 years old, was officially designated by the US as a global terrorist two years ago.

The US state department says he married the daughter of Mohammed Atta, who hijacked one of the four commercial aircraft used in the 2001 attacks, and crashed it into one of the World Trade Center towers in New York.

Letters from Osama Bin Laden seized from his compound indicated that he had been grooming Hamza, thought to be his favourite son, to replace him as leader of al-Qaeda.

Hamza Bin Laden is believed to have spent years with his mother in Iran, where it is thought his wedding took place, while other reports suggest he may have lived in Pakistan, Afghanistan or Syria.

"We do believe he's probably in the Afghan-Pakistan border [sic] and... he'll cross into Iran. But he could be anywhere though in... south central Asia," said Assistant Secretary for Diplomatic Security Michael Evanoff.

Al-Qaeda: The Basics

Emerged in Afghanistan in the late 1980s, as Arab volunteers joined US-backed Afghan mujahideen fighting to expel the occupying Soviet forces

Osama Bin Laden set up an organisation to help the volunteers, which became known as al-Qaeda, or "the base"

He left Afghanistan in 1989, returning in 1996 to run military training camps for thousands of foreign Muslims

Al-Qaeda declared "holy war" on Americans, Jews and their allies



What Has Happened to al-Qaeda?

The US-led war in Afghanistan following the 2001 attacks toppled the Taliban regime which had given Osama Bin Laden and his group sanctuary.

In recent years, al-Qaeda was eclipsed by the Islamic State (IS) group which attracted global attention, fighters and funds, and carried out a number of attacks on Western targets and allies.

"Al-Qaeda during this period has been relatively quiet, but that is a strategic pause, not a surrender," said US Co-ordinator for Counter-terrorism Nathan Sales.

"Today's al-Qaeda is not stagnant. It's rebuilding and it continues to threaten the United States and its allies.... Make no mistake, al-Qaeda retains both the capability and the intent to hit us."


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Osama bin Laden's Son Hamza is Dead

Hamza bin Laden was described as a “terrorist rock star” hellbent on recapturing al-Qaeda position as the world’s most dangerous extremists

Daily Mirror UK, 1 Aug 2019.


Osama bin Laden's son is dead, according to U.S. intelligence officials.




Hamza Bin Laden (Image: CIA)


Hamza bin Laden, who was groomed by his father to take over al-Qaeda, is said to have been killed sometime during the first two years of the Trump administration.

America is understood to have taken Hamza out in a strike, but The Pentagon is refusing to provide further details.

Hamza had a $1 million bounty placed on his capture by America in February.

Officials will not provide details of where or when bin Laden, 30, died or if the U.S. played a role in his death.

The country has previously made a mistake over Hamza - known as the “Crown Prince of Jihad” - after initially claiming he died alongside his father in May 2011.




Al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden, evil mastermind of the 9/11 terrorist atrocities (Image: AFP/Getty Images)


They later discovered he had escaped the compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan where his warlord father was hiding out.

Much like Osama bin Laden in that he was rarely seen, Hamza was described as a “terrorist rock star” hellbent on recapturing al-Qaeda position as the world’s most dangerous extremists.

While in hiding he had made several public statements urging his followers to wage war on London, Washington, Paris and Tel Aviv all while rising to become leader Ayman al Zawahiri's deputy.

In February, America launched a global hunt for the young warlord with his location the subject of speculation with reports of him in Pakistan, Afghanistan or under house arrest in Iran.



He was described as a “terrorist rock star” (Image: REX/Shutterstock)


In a statement at the time, the U.S. State Department told the Mirror: “The Justice Program is offering a reward of up to $1 million for information leading to the identification or location in any country of al-Qaeda (AQ) key leader Hamza bin Laden.

“Hamza bin Laden is the son of deceased former AQ leader Usama bin Laden and is emerging as a leader in the AQ franchise.

“Since at least August 2015, he has released audio and video messages on the Internet calling on his followers to launch attacks against the United States and its Western allies, and he has threatened attacks against the United States in revenge for the May 2011 killing of his father by U.S. service members.”




Hamza bin Laden, pictured at 13, is shown participating in an al-Qaeda attack (Image: UNKNOWN)




As a young boy, Hamza was destined for terror superstardom.


In November 2001, he was first seen in jihadist propaganda when he appeared in a video uploaded to an al-Qaeda-affiliated website.

In the footage, Hamza reads a poem praising the one-eyed Afghan mujahideen commander Mullah Omar and explores the wreckage of a plane alongside Taliban militants and his three older brothers.

Four years later, he appeared in a video in which he fought against Pakistani soldiers.

In 2008, Hamza appeared in another with his father.





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