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Movies Titan Sub Tragedy: Human Remains Discovered 4 Mths After Ship Imploded

Titanic II … and III and IV? Meet the Australian Millionaire Planning his Fleet

Clive Palmer's ambitions for a replica Titanic cruise have been met with a mixture of wonder and mockery. The brash mining mogul explains why a whole fleet can bring the world together


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Australian billionaire Clive Palmer speaks during a news conference about his intention to build the Titanic II in New York. Photograph: Seth Wenig/AP

To some people the idea of building a replica of the Titanic and launching it on the high seas amid a blaze of publicity is the ultimate act of hubris – sticking two fingers up at fate and inviting a future disaster.
But Clive Palmer, the brash Australian billionaire ploughing millions of dollars of his own fortune into the Titanic II project, does not even think the plan should stop there.
In his mind the future could see a fleet of Titanics afloat, each replicating the experience of the doomed 1912 original which sank after striking an iceberg in the North Atlantic but launched a strange afterlife as the most famous shipwreck in history.

"I hope that in a hundred years' time people will look back and say: "Well, we are building Titanic IV and Titanic V in memory of the guys that built Titanic II." We hope that tradition can survive," he told the Guardian in an interview in New York after unveiling the blueprints for Titanic II at a packed press conference held in the bowels of an aircraft carrier-turned-museum.

Palmer's ambitions for the Titanic have created a stir across the world as he has steadily revealed more and more of his plan. Titanic II will be built in a Chinese shipyard – a sign of how far the world has changed since Belfast's docks turned out the original – and then set sail on its maiden voyage some time in the second half of 2016.
Building the ship was an easy decision, Palmer said. The Australian's vast mining interests that have made him one of the world's richest men already means he is heavily invested in the shipping industry.

"The idea came from our relationship with the Chinese shipyards. They are building four of our ships at the moment and they wanted to build passenger ships. So I said: 'Why don't we build the Titanic? The world is waiting to see Titanic II. Let's go'," he explained.

The new vessel will look almost exactly like the first, doomed ship. Its silhouette, complete with four graceful backwards-leaning funnels, is virtually the same and its dimensions match the original. Inside much of the original ship – from the Turkish baths to a grand staircase – has been replicated, even while other new features have been added. Titanic II will boast a casino, a modern engine and highly advanced satellite navigation – just like any other modern cruise ship. Of course, it will also – unlike the original – have a large enough fleet of lifeboats to more than cover its projected 900 crew and 2,435 passengers.




A computer-rendered image of the exterior of Titanic II, due to launch in 2016. Image: Blue Star Line

Not surprisingly Palmer's plans were greeted with a mixture of wonder and mockery this week. But the portly 58-year-old Australian shrugged off some of the inevitable carping about the idea of recreating an "unsinkable" ship best known for a catastrophe that cost 1,502 people their lives. Almost every sentence he utters is a mix of broad humour and vast confidence.

"There are six and a half billion people in the world today and if you are worried about people criticising you, then you won't get out of bed of a morning, right? So I only worry about people that are very close to me. I realise that if we do anything in the world there are going to be knockers," he said.

But Palmer believes he knows what will best answer his critics. He gestures out of a window at the Hudson River that is visible behind him. "Those knockers will sit in Manhattan in a bar with their salty pretzel and a beer when Titanic II sails into here with an armada of ships, with the media in a frenzy and helicopters buzzing and the world knowing that Titanic II has completed the journey that was started in 1912," he said.

Palmer has every intention of being on board when that happens and there can be little doubt about his genuine passion for the Titanic. But it is one of many. He maintains a fleet of more than 100 vintage cars, owns five private jets and has an extensive dinosaur fossil collection. Prior to the Titanic he explored the idea of building a Zeppelin airship. His business life saw him create one fortune from property that saw him retire in his 40s only to get bored with travelling the world. So he returned to business, invested in mining and built a global empire.
In Australia he is a controversial figure, accused by some of being a self-interested plutocrat who dabbles in politics and yet others see him as a local boy made good on the world stage.

But why rebuild the Titanic? Palmer explains that his love for the ship comes from an appreciation of the Edwardian age with its manners and old fashioned attitudes. "It was how men treated women, the code of chivalry and old English school attitude," he said. "That is certainly gone to a certain extent today. Too many people spend all their time on the internet tweeting all day. As John Lennon said: 'Life is something that happens to you while you are doing something else.' Titanic II is a chance to stop, ponder and take a look at yourself," he added.





An image of the grand staircase in the Titanic II. Photograph: /Blue Star Line

Those are nice words, though it is not exactly clear how Titanic II is going to do that. Palmer's current plans seem aimed at creating an Edwardian theme park on the waves where passengers will have the option of wearing period dress. In an odd move, Palmer aims to replicate the class structure of the Titanic – right down to the steerage class inhabited by poor immigrants on their way to a new life in America.


But then you realise that Palmer – who is the son of Australian silent movie star George Palmer – appears to be in love with James Cameron's movie Titanic as much as the historical ship. Instead of talking about the Titanic disaster, with its class-ridden horrors as the rich saved themselves and the poor drowned, Palmer speaks of Titanic II as a symbol of love and togetherness as if Cameron's doomed movie lovers Rose and Jack were real people.

"Titanic II is an opportunity for people all over the glove to come together with an idea. That idea of course is one of love and understanding. It emphasises the things that we have got in common, rather than our differences. A family, you know, someone to fall in love with in our lives as we travel together through time," he said.

But even if Palmer is indeed obsessed with the cinematic Titanic rather than the historical facts behind it, that does not mean he has not stumbled upon a hit idea. Already more than 40,000 people have applied for Titanic II's maiden voyage, including some offering up to a million dollars for a first class cabin. Just like Cameron, Palmer is finding that with the Titanic and Titanic II it is image that people are after. And in that image there might just be a massive business opportunity.

After all, a ship by any other name would just be another cruise liner. "My interest comes from your interest," Palmer said candidly. "Every person around the world is interested in the Titanic. It is a fascination."
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Movies Titanic Hero Who Saved More Than 50 People Honoured

Experience Titanic's Last Port of Call in Cobh, Ireland.

Late at night on 14 April, 1912, the RMS Titanic hit an iceberg.



On 11 April, 1912, the Titanic departed Cobh, formerly known as Queenstown, in Co. Cork, and set sail for New York. Today The Titanic Experience at Cork harbor commemorates the Irish passengers who boarded the ship at Titanic's last port of call.


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Cobh, Co Cork, Ireland and the pier where the last 123 passengers boarded Titanic.Getty Images


In the dark, on the first night of September, the bells of St. Colman’s ring out over the peaked rooftops of Cobh. The notes, pure and deliberate, linger over the quiet waters of Cork Harbor below.

Liam and I are on the roof deck of the Commodore Hotel. He is my son, and he is seven. The deck is a short bit of hallway and two steps up from our room, which has such a perfect view of the harbor that its two tall windows might as well be paintings hanging on the wall, the work of an artist with an eye for cloud-bearing light.

A brief rain has left the picnic tables on the deck damp so I remain standing while Liam lopes back and forth, back and forth. As the chimes ring, I call to him and point to the cathedral, miles away, atop a steep hill.

While walking up Fifth Avenue in Manhattan, St. Patrick’s startles, as though the cathedral has suddenly stepped forward from the gray gathering of office buildings that surround it. Not so St. Colman’s.

From the moment we got off the train from Dublin a day earlier, it drew our gaze. Wherever we go in Cobh, St. Colman’s is there. Imagine what it must have been like to watch it appear on the hillside, stone by stone over forty-seven years, a slowly manifesting angel.

Now St. Colman’s is gently illuminated, which makes the two clocks on the spire glow. Below the cathedral, a sparse starscape, the lights of the town. Beyond, only night.




St. Colman's Cathedral in Cobh.


Liam and I have come outside so Travis, my husband, his father, can get some work done by dawn, New York time. And Liam needs to stretch his legs. We live in four-room apartment in Brooklyn. He takes his space where he can get it. Liam, tall for his age, quickly shifting from puppy to colt. His eyes are the exact blue of my own, and my father’s and those of my grandfather, who was born in Tuam, Co. Galway in 1906.

My grandfather left Ireland at the age of nineteen. My grandmother, from Ballinasloe, emigrated a few years later. Both, like thousands of Irish before them, and thousands after, traveled to Cork to sail from Cobh Harbor.

Had either left only a few years earlier, their tickets would have said Queenstown. In 1849, Queen Victoria paid a visit, her first-ever trip to Ireland, and Cobh was renamed to commemorate the occasion.

Those with even a glancing knowledge of Irish history will recognize 1849 as a hunger year. Mass starvation and death, eviction and emigration.

It’s difficult to reconcile this with a royal visit. Indeed, after the Irish Free State was established in 1922, Queenstown was replaced with a Gaelicized version of its former (English) name, Cove. And so Cobh was the last my grandparents saw of their homeland, Edward, for decades, Una forever. They would meet and marry in Brooklyn.

Yet it is not our own ghosts that we have come here to find....



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Movies Eerie Cottage Frozen in Time+TITANIC Sinking VIDEO

Eerie Cottage Left Frozen in Time, With Paper From Titanic Sinking Still on Table

A cottage left untouched since it was abandoned gives a glimpse into life more than 100 years ago after the previous owner lived a 'solitary life among the relics of the past'

The home in County Tyrone, Northern Ireland, looks ordinary from the outside, but inside it is packed with newspapers dating back to 1911...

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Photographer Rebecca was invited in to see the decaying cottage after its owner died and she was left in awe of the haunting scenes within the perfectly preserved home.

An eerie abandoned farmhouse left frozen in time provided one photographer with a fascinating look into rural life more than 100 years ago.

The home in County Tyrone, Northern Ireland, looks ordinary from the outside, but inside it is packed with newspapers dating back to 1911, stopped clocks, a half-smoked pipe, and the owner's shoes left by the bed years after the property was vacated

The cottage was lived in until 2015 by the last of three brothers, who kept all of their family history, alongside tins of food from the early 20th century left unopened on the kitchen shelves.




A man only identified as Dessie was the last to live there, leading 'a solitary life among the relics of the past' before moving into a home in 2015 and passing away two years later.


Rebecca, who owns the Abandoned NI website sharing photos of the derelict houses she explores, was allowed in by the owner to get a record of the incredible space before it was knocked down to make way for a new build.


She said she was left gobsmacked by what she found, with old books, magazines, papers and photographs littered around the farm worker's cottage and left untouched.

A clock on the mantel piece is stuck showing 12.15, a pair of glasses are left ready to pick up and a rusted OXO tin has been left open, with two pocket watches stored inside.







Hundreds of handwritten letters fill the drawers, and three kettles are sat on the stove, next to a cup which appears to have been placed there just before it was abandoned.




Old books and newspapers including the Mid Ulster Mail from 1917 were left sitting in the living room which had been shut off for more than 50 years, alongside one newspaper which reported the aftermath of the sinking of the Titanic in 1912.





Upstairs there remained rotting bedclothes, a bed pan on the floor and a flat cap left hanging on
the end of a bedframe.

Rebecca said she initially wasn't sure if the interior would be very interesting, but she has now created an exhibition based on the lives of Dessie and his family.

“I love the not knowing what you’re going to find, some places are shells and some places are like time machines with items such as photographs, wedding dresses, pocket watches to name a few,” says the photographer and explorer Rebecca.






Newspapers were left sitting in the living room, which had been unused for more than 50 years (Image: Abandoned NI/Triangle News)



Rebecca put on a museum exhibition with the items found inside (Image: Abandoned NI/Triangle News)

















She said: "I have to admit I saw the outside and wasn't sure if it was worth it. As soon as I opened the door I was blown away.

"I went into what I thought was a wee cottage and it's basically a social history museum."

The cottage first appeared on maps in 1858 and Rebecca began researching the family to help piece together the puzzle in all of the photographs.

After talking to people to find out more about Dessie, she said:
"Among many things he was a fabulous cook, many friends still talk about his famous soda bread which he cooked over the original stove.




Tins of old food remained unopened on the shelves (Image: Abandoned NI/Triangle News)

"He was a hearty farmer, milking cows to produce milk and butter.
"It was reported if you stayed for dinner in the house and you finished up, you were given another dinner for seconds.

"No one left with an empty stomach."

One of the mysteries Rebecca was able to solve was personal items belonging to an Edwin McQueen, who she was able to discover was married to Dessie's mum.

He worked as a policeman, and a certificate from 1894 and a framed picture of him in his uniform was found in one of the bedrooms.

Rebecca curated her own museum exhibit featuring the items, which went on show in Belfast and included two perfectly recreated rooms from the farmhouse.

She added: "Homes like this are the reason I love to photograph and document these buildings.

"There are so many places around the country just like this lying untouched and pretty soon they'll be gone too and we'll have no record of them being there."

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Titanic Hero Who Saved More Than 50 People Honoured in Cork

John "Jack" Foley was working as a storekeeper on the ill-fated liner when it collided with an iceberg and sank on April 15, 1912.

Irish Central, 28 AUG 2020.




An Irish seaman from Cork who saved more than 50 people on the RMS Titanic has been honored with a plaque in Youghal, his hometown.


As the ship sank, Foley and his fellow crewmen Samuel Hemmings and Walter Perkins took charge of Lifeboat 4, guiding dozens of women and children to safety as they awaited rescue from the RMS Carpathia.





John Foley was born at Muckridge in Youghal on September 14, 1865, one of three known children to Nicholas Foley, a laborer who later became a coachman, and Nora Broderick.

In 1894, Foley married Mary “Minnie” Murphy in Kinsale, Co Cork. They would have seven children. The family settled in Southampton around 1907.

According to the Encyclopedia Titanica, Foley initially signed on to the Titanic in Belfast for her delivery trip on March 25, 1912 as a quartermaster. When he signed on to the Titanic in Southampton on April 6, 1912, he signed on as a storekeeper.

Foley and his crewmen would rescue an estimated 50 people during the sinking, guiding people to the lifeboat.

Foley, who was not required to testify at either the US or British Inquiries into the sinking, returned home and signed-on to the Oceanic on July 10, 1912. However, he failed to join the ship when it sailed.

Foley and his family continued to live in Southampton. He continued working at sea, later serving aboard the Majestic.

John Foley died on September 18,1934 after a stroke. He was buried in an unmarked grave at Hollybrook Cemetery, Southampton.

The commemorative plaque was the idea of local men Kevin Melly and Peter Landers.

Fifty years ago, when Melly was 15-years-old, he encountered Foley's grandnephew, Liam Mulcahy, who told him the story of his uncle, the Irish Examiner reports.

Earlier this year, Melly and Landers set up a Go Fund Me page and raised €2,000 for the bronze plaque, created by local artists Liam Lavery and Eithne Ring.

The plaque was unveiled last weekend by Mayor Mary Lineman Foley, reports The Irish Post. Jack Foley’s great grandnephew Don Mulcahy and great-great-grandniece Sarah Mulcahy attended the ceremony.


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Movies The Lost 14 Irish Immigrants of The Titanic

The Addergoole 14: The Lost Irish Immigrants of The Titanic | Waking Titanic
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Between 1850 and 1920 over 3 million people – half the population – emigrated from Ireland, escaping desperate poverty. Believing America to be a saviour and a life of hope, the ‘Addergoole 14’ saved fiercely in order to afford a ticket aboard the Titanic and escape to the land of dreams.

Told using interviews with the descendants of survivors, these are new perspectives of the conditions on board, and the events of April 12th 1912. Focusing not on the glory and fate of the ship, this new look at a famous tragedy uncovers ordinary lives and fragile hopes of the community that lost more that fateful night than any other.

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Was The Coward of The Titanic Really a Hero? New Book Says Yes

Clifford Ismay, a distant relation of the much-maligned businessman, has recently released "Understanding J. Bruce Ismay", which aims to tell the story of Ismay's role in the evacuation of the Titanic.

Irish Central 24 MAY 2022.






A new book claims that Bruce Ismay - the managing director of White Star Line who was fiercely criticized for escaping the Titanic on a lifeboat - was actually a hero who helped dozens of women escape the sinking ship.





Clifford Ismay, a distant relation of the much-maligned businessman, has recently released "Understanding J. Bruce Ismay", which aims to tell the story of Ismay's role in the evacuation of the Titanic.

Ismay had been showered in praise by first-class passengers on the luxury liner since it left Southampton on April 10, receiving praise for the Titanic's magnificent grand staircase, Turkish baths, libraries, and squash courts among many other luxurious features.

Ismay was woken by a loud vibration on the night of April 14 when the Titanic hit an iceberg in the North Atlantic Ocean. He initially thought that the ship had lost a propeller and pulled on his dressing-gown before stepping out from his cabin to investigate.

When he reached the bridge, he received the fatal news from Captain Edward Smith, who informed him that the unsinkable ship was sinking.

Ismay sprang into action, working tirelessly in the two hours between the Titanic hitting the iceberg and the liner sinking to the bottom of the ocean.

Witnesses reported that Ismay ordered men to stand aside to allow women and children to reach the Titanic's lifeboats, helping to fill a total of eight lifeboats, according to Clifford Ismay's new book.

He played a key role in convincing women in first-class to board the lifeboats, also convincing a steward who had helped back because she was "only crew".

However, Ismay was vilified for the rest of his life for his decision to board the last lifeboat to be lowered from the doomed ship.

US newspapers labeled Ismay the "Coward of the Titanic", with some claiming that his company's name should be changed from White Star to Yellow.


The bulk of the criticism came from papers owned by Ismay's rival William Randolph Hearst, who gleefully accepted the opportunity to blacken Ismay's name, according to the new book.

The book explores how Ismay only boarded the last lifeboat when a call went out for more women and none came forward. It also examines other claims that Ismay was already in the lifeboat assisting women and children when it was lowered and another claim that a man bundled him into the vessel.

Clifford Ismay's book also examines how the English businessman was haunted for the rest of his life by his decision to preserve his own life ahead of other passengers on the ship, revealing that his hair turned from black with a few strands of grey to snow-white just days after the disaster.

Charles Lightoller, one of the highest-ranking officers to survive the sinking, reported that Ismay was "obsessed with the idea that he ought to have gone down with the ship because women had gone down".

"I tried to get that idea out of his head. The doctor tried, too. But we had difficulty in arousing Mr. Ismay, solely owing to the fact that women had gone down in the ship and he had not," Lightoller said.

Ismay was also accused of encouraging the Titanic to sail at a dangerous pace in order to beat the record for an Atlantic crossing previously set by its sister ship the Olympic.

However, Clifford Ismay writes that this claim is based on the flimsy evidence of an American passenger who claimed that she overheard tell Captain Smith that he wanted the voyage to beat the world record. The passenger later said she could not positively identify Ismay or Smith with any certainty.


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Titanic Expert Believes NEW 3D Images May Prove It Did NOT Strike an Iceberg

Titanic Shipwreck Revealed as Never Seen Before in New Full-Sized 3D Scan

Parks Stephenson, who has studied the Titanic for many years, says there is a "growing amount of evidence that Titanic didn’t hit the iceberg along its side" as seen in the movies


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Titanic may not have struck an iceberg before it famously sank more than 100 years ago, an expert believes, as 3D digital scans reveal a wealth of new information.

Parks Stephenson, who has studied the Titanic for many years, says there is a "growing amount of evidence that Titanic didn’t hit the iceberg along its side, as is shown in all the movies".

He added: “She may actually have grounded on the submerged shelf of the ice.




"That was the first scenario put out by a London magazine in 1912. Maybe we haven’t heard the real story of Titanic yet.”

The first full-size 3D digital scan of the ship's wreckage has been created, using more than 70,000 images from every angle

The ship is still lying 12,500ft beneath the Atlantic Ocean's surface, 400 miles from south of Canada, and now experts will be able to analyse the ship unobscured by water and hopefully find out exactly why the ship hit an iceberg between Southampton, UK and New York, US.

Parks Stephenson said he was "blown away" when he first saw the scans.

"It allows you to see the wreck as you can never see it from a submersible, and you can see the wreck in its entirety, you can see it in context and perspective.

"And what it's showing you now is the true state of the wreck."

He added: "We really don't understand the character of the collision with the iceberg.

"We don't even know if she hit it along the starboard side, as is shown in all the movies - she might have grounded on the iceberg."

The wreck is continuing to decay, with microbes taking their toll, but Mr Stephenson said the scan would offer an evergreen look into the "questions, basic questions, that need to be answered about the ship".







The Bow of The Titanic


Since the ship crashed over a century ago, microbes are eating away at it and parts are disintegrating.

Historians fear that time running out to fully understand what happened, so the 3D scan offers fresh hope.

For decades, teams of people set out to find the Titanic but were unsuccessful due to the North Atlantic’s unpredictable weather and the enormous depth at which the ship sunk to.

It took a whopping 73 years for its final resting to be discovered.

Gerhard Seiffert, from the company, who led the plans for the project, told BBC News: "The depth of it, almost 4,000m, represents a challenge, and you have currents at the site, too - and we're not allowed to touch anything so as not to damage the wreck.





Titanic director James Cameron, left, with Parks Stephenson, right

"And the other challenge is that you have to map every square centimetre - even uninteresting parts, like on the debris field you have to map mud, but you need this to fill in between all these interesting objects."


National Geographic Explorer-in-Residence Robert Ballard, along with French scientist Jean-Louis Michel made the historical discovery on September 1, 1985.

The Titanic hit an iceberg at around 23:40 local time and sank two hours and forty minutes later.

But with lifeboats for just 1,178 people on an over 3,000-capacity ship, only 706 passengers and crew survived.

The last living survivor of the Titanic died in 2009 at the age of 97 - he was just two months old at the time of the tragedy.





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Titanic Footage Uncovers Gold Sharks’ Tooth Necklace That Will Never Be Recovered

The scan revealed a gold necklace featuring the tooth of the prehistoric megalodon shark, which lived more than 23 million years ago.


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A digital scan has revealed a necklace carrying the tooth of a prehistoric megalodon shark in the wreckage of the Titanic.

The scan, which was carried out by deep water investigation company Magallen, revealed a gold necklace featuring the tooth of the prehistoric shark, which lived more than 23 million years ago.

Magallen CEO Richard Parkinson described the discovery as "astonishing, beautiful, and breathtaking".

"What is not widely understood is that the Titanic is in two parts and there’s a three-square-mile debris field between the bow and the stern," Parkinson told ITV last week.


"The team mapped the field in such detail that we could pick out those details."

The company is carrying out a full-size digital scan of the Titanic wreckage, adding that it is the largest underwater scanning project in history.

As part of the project, Magallen and filmmakers Atlantic Productions are attempting to create an "exact digital twin" of the wreckage for the first time ever.



Magallen used two submarines to produce around 700,000 images of the wreckage, which were then converted into a moving scan.

The rare necklace, however, will never be recovered from the wreckage due to an agreement between the UK and US Governments that prevents members of the public from removing artifacts from the wreckage and the surrounding seabed.

However, Magallen is attempting to discover who owned the necklace by using artificial intelligence to reach out to family members of the 2,200 passengers who were traveling on the Titanic when it sank in the Atlantic Ocean on April 15, 1912.

Artificial Intelligence will analyze footage of passengers boarding the ship, using facial recognition technology to catalog the clothing they were wearing. Once analysts determine which passenger was wearing the necklace, Magellan will be able to reach out to their relatives.

Check out this video of the necklace still sitting at the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean with the Titanic:







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British Billionaire Said to be on Missing Titanic Sub - Rescue OP Exploring and Mobilising All Options to Bring Crew Back Safely

A submersible that takes tourists to the Titanic shipwreck has gone missing off the North American coast in the Atlantic

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A submersible that takes tourists to the Titanic shipwreck is missing off the North American coast in the Atlantic

It lost contact an hour and 45 minutes into a dive towards the Titanic wreck, according to the US Coast Guard


The vessel - with five onboard - began its dive on Sunday morning. According to its operator, the vessel has "life support" for 96 hours. The operator charges £200,000 per person.


One of those believed to be on board is British businessman and explorer Hamish Harding

The wreck sits about 3,800m (12,500ft) below sea level at the bottom of the ocean - It is located about 600km (370 miles) off the coast of Newfoundland, Canada



We Don't Know Where The Submersible is

Robert Blasiak - an ocean researcher with the Stockholm Resilience Centre - outlined the tough conditions facing the search teams.


"The ocean on average is about four kilometres deep so this [submersible] is at great depth," Blasiak told the BBC.

He added that light only penetrates up to about one kilometre into the ocean's surface, so that's in 'pitch black and water pressures of about 400 atmospheres'.








Blasiak described the challenges for OceanGates' Titan submersible craft in reaching the wreck of the Titanic:

Quote Message: We know where the Titanic is, but we don't know where the submersible is. So it could be that it's nowhere near that depth and that's what we should all hope for at this time."





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Titanic Tourist Submersible: Rescuers Scan Ocean as Clock Ticks - ONLY 3 Days of Oxygen Left.

Pogue says it is also not possible for those aboard the sub to escape by themselves because they are sealed inside by bolts applied from the outside.

US and Canadian search teams are racing against time to find a tourist submersible that went missing during a dive to the Titanic's wreck on Sunday.


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The vessel weighs 23,000 lbs (10,432 kg) and, according to the website, can reach depths of up to 13,100 ft.

Five people were onboard when contact with the small sub was lost about an hour and 45 minutes into its dive.

The rescue operation is continuing overnight in the mid-Atlantic but there has been no sign so far of the vessel.

Government agencies, both countries' navies and commercial deep-sea firms are all helping the rescue operation.


As of Monday afternoon, it was thought the crew members had roughly 3 days-worth of oxygen left. Among them is the British billionaire businessman and explorer Hamish Harding.


Pakistani businessman Shahzada Dawood and his son, Suleman, were also on board, their family said in a statement.

French explorer Paul-Henry Nargeolet is thought to be on board, according to a Facebook post by Mr Harding before the dive started

Stockton Rush, chief executive of OceanGate - the firm behind the dive - is also being widely reported to be on the vessel.

"Right now, our focus is on getting as much capability into the area as we can," Rear Adm John Mauger of the US Coast Guard told a press conference.

Military planes, a submarine and sonar buoys have so far been used in the search for the vessel.

Titanic's wreck lies some 435 miles (700km) south of St John's, Newfoundland, though the rescue mission is being run from Boston, Massachusetts.

The US Coast Guard said a research ship called the Polar Prince had conducted a surface search for the sub on Monday evening. It is used to transport submersibles to the wreckage site and was the support ship on Sunday's tourist expedition.

The missing craft is believed to be tour firm OceanGate's Titan submersible, which CBS journalist David Pogue travelled aboard last year to reach the wreckage of the Titanic.

He has told the BBC that when the support ship is directly above the sub, short text messages are able to be sent between the two.

Otherwise, communication via GPS or radio systems is not available as neither work underwater.

A submersible vessel is different to a submarine. According to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, a submarine can launch itself into the ocean from a port independently, while a submersible has very limited power reserves so needs a mother ship that can launch it and recover it.

Rear Adm Mauger noted the area in which the search was taking place was "remote", making operations difficult.

Added to this is the fact that visibility is quickly lost below the surface of the water as light cannot penetrate far.

The OceanGate website lists three submersibles it owns, and only the Titan is capable of diving deep enough to reach the Titanic wreckage.

Tickets cost $250,000 (£195,000) for an eight-day trip including dives to the wreck at a depth of 3,800m (12,500ft).


On social media at the weekend, Mr Harding said he was "proud to finally announce" that he would be aboard the mission to the wreck of the Titanic - but added that because of the "worst winter in Newfoundland in 40 years, this mission is likely to be the first and only manned mission to the Titanic in 2023".

He later wrote: "A weather window has just opened up and we are going to attempt a dive tomorrow."

OceanGate said it had "been unable to establish communications with one of our submersible exploration vehicles" but that its "entire focus [was] on the crewmembers in the submersible and their families".

"We are deeply thankful for the extensive assistance we have received from several government agencies and deep sea companies in our efforts to re-establish contact with the submersible," it added.

The company bills the eight-day trip on its carbon-fibre submersible as a "chance to step outside of everyday life and discover something truly extraordinary".

It sets sail from St John's in Newfoundland, with each full dive to the wreck, including the descent and ascent, reportedly taking around eight hours.

According to its website, one expedition is ongoing and two more have been planned for June 2024.

The Titanic, which was the largest ship of its time, hit an iceberg on its maiden voyage from Southampton to New York in 1912. Of the 2,200 passengers and crew onboard, more than 1,500 died.

Its wreckage has been extensively explored since it was discovered in 1985.

The wreck lies in two parts, with the bow and the stern separated by about 2,600ft. A huge debris field surrounds the broken vessel.

Last month, the first full-sized digital scan of the wreck was created using deep-sea mapping. The scan shows both the scale of the ship, as well as some minute details, such as the serial number on one of the propellers.









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British Rescue Mission For Titan Sub BLOCKED by US Officials.

UK Deepwater Specialists Magellan Have Been Waiting to Leave The Channel Islands Since Monday

Remotely operated vehicle capable of winching submersible out of the Atlantic waiting to leave airport in Channel Islands.

Mr Hunchak said US officials have indicated they would prefer to use a New York-based vessel capable of exploring 3,000m below water, whereas UKs' Magellan’s can plunge depths of up to 5,000m.

The Titanic Wreck is at 3,800m.

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OceanGate Expeditions submersible vessel Titan, which has gone missing during a voyage to the Titanic shipwreck

A remotely operated vehicle capable of winching the stricken submersible Titan out of the Atlantic has been blocked from joining the rescue mission by the US government, The Telegraph understands.

A team from deepwater specialists Magellan Limited has been waiting to leave an airport in the Channel Islands since 7pm on Monday, but approval for take-off has not been received.


The Guernsey-based firm produced the first full-sized digital scan of the Titanic last summer, the largest underwater project of its kind as two submarines put together 700,000 images of the wreck.

Bretton Hunchak, former president of RMS Titanic, Inc, which collaborated with Magellan, says the company has essential equipment and expertise to help locate OceanGate’s Titan submersible that went missing on a dive to the wreck of the luxury passenger liner, which sank in the North Atlantic Ocean in April 1912.

But despite receiving apparent clearance from the Ministry of Defence to leave UK airspace, the American government has allegedly yet to authorise the team’s request to join rescuers 435 miles south of St John’s, Newfoundland

He added Magellan’s remotely operated vehicle was unique in that it was likely the only asset available to have a winch capable of dragging submersibles from the depths of the ocean. It can also detect signals and send them above the surface.

Mr Hunchak said the desperate situation was “painful” to him as he described Paul-Henry Nargeolet, a Frenchman reported to be among those on the submersible, as a “personal mentor”.


He told The Telegraph: “We have British, French and US citizens on board and every minute here counts.

This is not a rational decision, this is the only asset we have with a winch and the guys are experts in this area.

“Why not run both vessels? The more help we can get the better and denying us means you are giving up on every option you have to save lives.


“These are irreplaceable human beings.”



Meanwhile, Brandon Williams, the Republican congressman and former Navy officer, has called for the US to deploy a nuclear submarine to search for the missing watercraft.

On Tuesday, the Ministry of Defence said it was on hand to help the mission, but it emerged Nato’s submarine rescue system (NSRS) will not be able to reach the stricken vessel.

An NSRS submersible can operate at depths of up to 610m, while the Titanic wreck is much deeper at 3,800m.







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Canadian P-3 Aircraft Detected Underwater Noises in Search Area For Missing Titanic Sub

Government Memos, Described Them as Banging Sounds


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'Likely signs of life have been detected': Rescue plane hunting missing Titanic submarine with five on board 'hears banging' coming every 30 minutes from near wreck site - giving 'cause for hope' the men are ALIVE as search enters crucial day


A Canadian Aircraft, part of the enormous search mission looking for the missing Titanic tourists, heard 'banging' at 30-minute intervals in the area the submarine disappeared. Specialist sonobuoys onboard the plane detected the sounds near the 'distress position' a Department of Homeland Security email seen by Rolling Stone revealed on Tuesday night.

'RCC Halifax launched a P8, Poseidon, which has underwater detection capabilities from the air,' the DHS memo read, 'reported a contact in a position close to the distress position. 'The P8 heard banging sounds in the area every 30 minutes. Four hours later additional sonar was deployed and banging was still heard.' The timing - or cause - of the banging is not revealed by the memo.


Gradual Suffocation, Panic Attacks and Hypothermia: The chilling health consequences of being trapped in a submarine, revealed by a US Navy expert





Dr Dale Molé, a retired emergency and preventative medicine physician and the former director of undersea medicine and radiation health for the US Navy, detailed how passengers on board a commercial submersible face depleting oxygen supplies, toxic carbon dioxide levels and plummeting temperatures if they are not rescued within the next 24 hours.

The vessel will have a carbon dioxide scrubber on board to remove excess gas, but this will eventually run out. There is also a risk of hypothermia, as well as hyperventilation induced by panic attacks.


Meanwhile, it has been reported that OceanGate's chief executive was WARNED by leaders in the submersible industry that the company’s “experimental approach” could result in problems “From Minor to Catastrophic”







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THERE'S HOPE! Trapped Titanic Submarine Victims Desperately Banging SOS on Craft at 3,800m. SOS Taps Have Been Heard.


Two US Vehicles, Which Could Only Dive to 3000m Imploded. 2 British Deepwater Teams That Could Reach 5000m Were BLOCKED by US When The US Coast Guard Decided NOT to Fund The Export.

5 Warning Signs MISSED Before Titanic Sub Went Missing.


OP Left it TOO LATE to Report it Missing

NEW Titanic Sub Tours Go on Sale For REDUCED Price £96,000 - But It's Not a Holiday

BBC 22 JUNE 2023





As global search and rescue teams sprint to find the submarine-like vessel that went missing in the Atlantic Ocean with five people on board, many are horrified that warning signs were ignored.

The precious amounts of oxygen on the vessel have been running down at a steady level, it means there may only be around 6 HOURS of breathable air left. As the clock ticks, previous concerns about the vessel have been circulating with some horrified the mission went ahead as OceanGate faced several warnings.


The OceanGate Expeditions vessel was set to reach the bottom of the sea to view the Titanic shipwreck on Sunday, but it lost contact around an hour and 45 minutes after it submerged.


Signing Your Life Away


It has been revealed that travellers were warned before boarding the submarine that the vessel had not been approved or certified by any regulatory body and the trip could result in death.




Journalist David Pogue joined OceanGate on an expedition to the North Atlantic and kept the forms he had to sign before taking the expedition.

"'It has not been approved or certified by any regulatory body, and could result in physical injury, disability, motion trauma, or death'”

David said he was horrified to find the inside of the sub was similar to the size of a minivan and he said they use "off-the-shelf components" and lights from Camping World.

Simpsons writer Mike Reiss who also went on the trip has since expressed past safety fears and said it was "remarkable how basic and simple the whole operation" was.


Mike said: "To get on the boat that takes you to the Titanic, you sign a massive waiver that you could die on the trip."On the list, they mention death three times on page one and it's never far from your mind. As I was getting on the submarine, [I thought] this could be the end."

Other guests on previous trips said there were continual failures including radio outages and flickering lights. The submarine was "nice and cosy", according to OceanGate's CEO


'Extreme' DANGER Warning Five Years Ago


In 2018, OceanGate fired and sued David Lochridge, their director of marine operations, after they claimed he breached his non-disclosure agreement for saying passengers might be endangered in the craft when it reached "extreme depths."

According to a lawsuit, David's scathing assessment to senior leadership said there were "visible flaws" in the ship’s carbon fibre hull, "prevalent flaws" in a scale model, flammable materials onboard and key safety documents that were not shared with him.

"The paying passengers would not be aware, and would not be informed, of this experimental design, the lack of non-destructive testing of the hull, or that hazardous flammable materials were being used within the submersible," Lochridge's legal filing stated.

The document added that he believed the company could "subject passengers to potential extreme danger in an experimental submersible."


David alleged in the court filing that he had been wrongfully terminated and that his actions were aimed at ensuring the safety of passengers on the Titan.

Trapped Titanic Sub Victims Desperately Banging SOS on Craft at 3,800m


The victims of the Titanic submarine disaster are believed to be alive 3,800m under the Atlantic Ocean and desperately trying to raise help.

GB News understands regular SOS taps have been heard and two vehicles, which could only dive to 3000m, both imploded when they attempted to plunge lower.

As part of rescue efforts, France have reportedly ignored US advice and sent a ship named the l’Atlante - a vessel featuring a robot - which can plunge to 20000ft.


The missing sub - named Titan - lost contact with its mothership, MV Polar Prince around one hour and 45 minutes into the two-hour descent.

The OceanGate sub's air supply is due to run out around 12pm on Thursday UK time (7am EST).

British billionaire Hamish Harding, who runs an aviation company, is among those missing along with Paul-Henry Nargeolet, a former French Navy diver and Stockton Rush, the chief executive of OceanGate.

British businessman Shahzada Dawood, a member of one of Pakistan's richest families, and his 19-year-old son Suleman Dawood are also onboard the vessel.

The OceanGate Expeditions tour group, which takes explorers to the depths of the Atlantic for $200,000 per person, is believed to have lost contact when the vessel was directly above the Titanic wreck.


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Titanic Sub CEO Ignored ALL Warnings

Titanic Director James Cameron WARNED About Danger of Visiting Sunken Ship...


'It’s not like you can call up AAA to come get you,' filmmaker said about deep-sea exploration

Five Titan Sub Explorers Killed in Catastrophic Implosion

The bodies of the five people killed on the Titanic submersible will never be recovered, rescue searchers have warned.


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Titanic submarine CEO who died in disaster 'ignored eerie unsinkable warning'


The owner of OceanGate, Stockton Rush, ignored safety warnings about the Titan submersible years before he died onboard near the wreck of the Titanic with four other men, it has been claimed

Emails show that repeated warnings regarding the safety of the Titanic tourist submarine were allegedly ignored by the company CEO, who died onboard the submersible.




Rob McCallum said he told OceanGate CEO Stockton Rush that the Titan sub was a risk until it had been classified by an independent body.


McCallum, a consultant for OceanGate when the company started in 2009, was threatened with legal action by Ocean Gate's lawyer.

In an email seen by the BBC, McCallum told Rush: "I think you are potentially placing yourself and your clients in a dangerous dynamic.

"In your race to [the] Titanic you are mirroring that famous catch cry: 'She is unsinkable'".





Titanic, the wreck the Titan tourists had paid to have a close look at, was infamously claimed to be an unsinkable ship before it met its demise on its maiden voyage in April 1912.

Rush told McCallum that he took the doubts over Titan's safety as a "serious personal insult".

"We have heard the baseless cries of 'you are going to kill someone' way too often," he wrote.

McCallum told the broadcaster that he urged OceanGate repeatedly to get some form of independent accreditation.

"Until a sub is classed, tested and proven it should not be used for commercial deep dive operations," he said in one email.

"I implore you to take every care in your testing and sea trials and to be very, very conservative," McCallum added. "As much as I appreciate entrepreneurship and innovation, you are potentially putting an entire industry at risk."

Submersible pilot Randy Holt, communicates with the support boat as he and Stockton Rush, CEO and Co-Founder of OceanGate, dive in the company's submersible, "Antipodes," about three miles off the coast of Fort Lauderdale, Fla., June 28, 2013.

Rescuers in a remote area of the Atlantic Ocean raced against time Tuesday, June 20, 2023, to find a missing submersible before the oxygen supply runs out for five people, including Stockton, who were on a mission to document the wreckage of the Titanic

Rush was warned by McCallum, emails show


Mr Rush responded and said OceanGate's "engineering focused, innovative approach... flies in the face of the submersible orthodoxy, but that is the nature of innovation".

Repeated questions have surfaced and will continue to be raised after Titan's demise.

In a re-surfaced podcast with CBS, Rush talked about the submersible vessel he claims safety is a "pure waste".

In the interview in November 2022, he said: "You know, at some point, safety is just a pure waste. I mean, if you just want to be safe, don't get out of bed, don't get in your car, don't do anything.

"At some point, you're going to take some risk, and it really is a risk-reward question. I think I can do this just as safely while breaking the rules," he added at 17 minutes into the episode.

Previous passenger Mike Reiss told the BBC that prospective passengers were made to sign a waiver that "mentions death three different times".

He said: "They’re learning as they go along … things go wrong. I’ve taken three different dives with this company and you almost always [lose] communication.”


The New York Times has also published a letter to Rush written in 2018 that warned of “catastrophic” problems with Titan’s development.

The Marine Technology Society said there was “concern regarding the development of Titan and the planned Titanic expeditions”.

In its letter, the organisation wrote: "Your marketing material advertises that the TITAN design will meet or exceed the DNV-GL safety standards, yet it does not appear that OceanGate has the intention of following DNV-GL class rules."

The DNV-GL, now DNV, is an accredited classification society that includes certification on submersibles in its remit.

The letter continued: "Your representation is, at minimum, misleading to the public and breaches an industry-wide professional code of conduct we all endeavour to uphold."

A remotely operated vehicle (ROV) found debris fields on the North Atlantic Ocean sea floor around 1,600ft from the bow of the Titanic on Thursday morning.

Rear Admiral John Mauger, of the US Coast Guard, said the debris is “consistent with a catastrophic implosion of the vessel”.



William Kohnen, chairman of the Manned Underwater Vehicles Committee, said the regulations for building submersible vessels were "written in blood".

Mr Kohnen's organisation, based in Los Angeles in the US, raised safety concerns in 2018 about OceanGate's development of Titan.

He suggested the company was "not willing to undergo the standard certification process which we all do in the submarine industry" via a third-party "double-check" system.



William Kohnen said regulations were 'written in blood'

The committee warned at the time that the development decisions could have "negative outcomes from minor to catastrophic that could have serious consequences".



Speaking to BBC Radio 4's Today programme, Mr Kohnen said: "We're only smart because we remember what we wrote and what we did wrong last time."

"The rules are written in blood - it is in there because it caused trouble before, and to say: 'Well I think we're just going to ignore that and go on our own way,' suggests there might be a bit of input of wisdom that this might not be the best decision."

It comes after Guillermo Sohnlein, co-founder of OceanGate Expeditions, told the same programme that the Titan had undergone 14 years of "rigorous" and "robust" checks during development.

Sohnlein described regulations surrounding visits to the Titanic wreckage as “tricky to navigate” after it was confirmed on Thursday that debris from the Titan deep-sea vessel had been found.

He told Times Radio he and his co-founder Mr Rush were committed to safety during expeditions.

Sohnlein said: “He was extremely committed to safety. He was also extremely diligent about managing risks, and was very keenly aware of the dangers of operating in a deep ocean environment.

“So that’s one of the main reasons I agreed to go into business with him in 2009.”

Sohnlein, who no longer works for the company, continued: “I know from first-hand experience that we were extremely committed to safety and safety and risk mitigation was a key part of the company culture.”

Giving his views on the regulations surrounding visits to the Titanic wreckage, Sohnlein said: “The regulations are pretty sparse. And many of them are antiquated, or they’re designed for specific instances.

“So it’s kind of tricky to navigate those regulatory schemes.”


'Titanic' filmmaker James Cameron calls out 'three potential failure points' on Titan submersible








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Titan Sub Implosion: US Coast Guard Launches Investigation Into Disaster

An investigation into the causes of the Titan submersible disaster has been opened by the US Coast Guard.


BBC NEWS 27 JUNE 2023






US authorities say a debris field located in the North Atlantic leads to a conclusion that OceanGate's Titan submersible suffered a "catastrophic implosion" (a violent collapse inwards), instantly killing all five passengers on board.


Chief investigator Cpt Jason Neubauer said its priority would be recovering debris, and precautions would be taken in case human remains are found.


Speaking on Sunday, he also said the investigation would be able to recommend civil or criminal charges.


The Titan was on a dive to the Titanic wreck on 18 June when it imploded, killing all five people on board.

Cpt Neubauer told reporters in Boston that the US Coast Guard had convened its highest level of investigation.

He said it would would try to establish what caused the disaster, and make recommendations to prevent future tragedies. He added that it would be run jointly with Canadian, UK and French authorities.

The investigation is currently in its initial phase and efforts to recover the wreckage of the sub are ongoing. So far, five major pieces have been found 3,800m (12,467ft) below the surface in a large debris field near the bow of the Titanic.

Cpt Neubauer said investigators would be taking "all precautions" if they discover human remains.

He said the investigation could lead to tougher regulations and safety recommendations for submersibles, but could not confirm how long it would take to complete.

Once all evidence has been collected, Cpt Neubauer said investigators would likely hold a formal hearing to get witness testimony.

He added that interviews were already being conducted in the Canadian city of St John's, where the Titan's support vessel, the Polar Prince launched and towed the submersible into the North Atlantic Ocean.

Canadian investigators boarded the support ship on Saturday as part of their own investigation into the disaster.

US Coast Guard Rear Admiral John Mauger, who also spoke to reporters, was asked about the cost of the search and rescue operation but declined to answer,

He said it was not policy to charge for search and rescue and the service does not put a cost on human life or rescuing people in the "dangerous environment" of the ocean, adding "we always answer the call".

"We conduct disciplined operations with warranted risk to put our resources and lives at risk to save others. That's who we are."



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So far, five major pieces have been found below the surface in a large debris field near the bow of the Titanic, according to the last update from the US Coast Guard.


The agency has launched an investigation into the causes of the Titan disaster, which is in its initial phase.

Officials have said they will try to establish what caused the implosion, and make recommendations to prevent future tragedies.



Human Remains Recovered

Presumed human remains have been found within the wreckage of the Titan submersible, the US Coast Guard says.

Pieces from the sub, which imploded on a deep dive to the Titanic, were unloaded in St John's, Canada, on Wednesday.

Officials say the sub's landing frame and a rear cover were found among the debris.

US medical professionals will conduct a formal analysis of presumed remains, the coast guard said in a statement.

The agency is in the early stages of an investigation into the causes of the disaster. The Coast Guard's Marine Board of Investigation (MBI) will transport the evidence to a US port for further analysis and testing.

MBI chair Capt Jason Neubauer said in a statement that there was "still a substantial amount of work to be done to understand the factors that led to the catastrophic loss of the Titan and help ensure a similar tragedy does not occur again".

"I am grateful for the coordinated international and interagency support to recover and preserve this vital evidence at extreme offshore distances and depths," Capt Neubauer said.

All five people on board the vessel died on 18 June after it imploded about 90 minutes into a dive to view the famous 1912 shipwreck, which sits at a depth of 3,800m (12,500ft) in the north Atlantic.





The passengers were the head of OceanGate, which organised the dive, 61-year-old Stockton Rush; British explorer Hamish Harding, 58; Shahzada Dawood, 48, and his son, Suleman Dawood, 19; and French diver Paul-Henry Nargeolet, 77.







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Doomed Titanic Submarine Website STILL Says DEAD Passenger Can Join You on Trips

OceanGate Expeditions still advertises trips to the Titanic wreckage, even after the fatal incident claimed the lives of five people after the submarine imploded last week


BBC NEWS 30 JUNE 2023








The OceanGate website is still promoting its luxury expeditions to the Titanic wreckage, including being joined by one of the experts who perished on the doomed vessel.

Even 11 days after the fatal journey, the company's website features pages enticing potential customers with the opportunity to dive to the iconic shipwreck in their submersible.





The page lists renowned French explorer Paul-Henri Nargeolet, who perished on board the Titan, as an expert 'who may join you on [the] expedition'.

It describes an eight-day expedition from the Atlantic coast of Canada to the location of the wreck, situated 380 miles offshore and at a depth of 3,800 metres below the surface.

The page reads: "Your dive will provide not only a thrilling and unique travel experience, but also help the scientific community learn more about the wreck and the deep ocean environment."


The page lists renowned French explorer PH Nargeolet, who perished on board the Titan, as an expert 'who may join you on [the] expedition'

Paul-Henri Nargolet, British adventurer Hamish Harding and father and son Shahzada and Suleman Dawood were killed on board the vessel near the wreckage of the Titanic, alongside OceanGate Expeditions’ chief executive, Stockton Rush.






The website lists two upcoming "missions" to the Titanic wreckage, scheduled for June 2024, and refers to a June 2023 mission that is supposedly "currently underway."


These trips will not proceed, and it appears that the website has not been updated following the tragic incident.

Meanwhile, Canadian authorities are now considering whether any criminal, federal, or provincial laws were violated in the lead-up to the disaster involving the Titan submersible.

Speaking after the evidence was recovered, the Marine Board of Investigation’s (MBI) chairman, Captain Jason Neubauer, said: “I am grateful for the co-ordinated international and inter-agency support to recover and preserve this vital evidence at extreme offshore distances and depths.

“The evidence will provide investigators from several international jurisdictions with critical insights into the cause of this tragedy.

“There is still a substantial amount of work to be done to understand the factors that led to the catastrophic loss of the Titan and help ensure a similar tragedy does not occur again.”



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Titanic Artifact Salvage Expedition Challenged by US Gov

RMS Titanic Inc. owns salvage rights to the shipwreck and is attempting to organize an expedition scheduled for 2024.


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The United States Government is attempting to prevent a planned expedition to recover historical artifacts from the wreck of the White Star liner, RMS Titanic.



Georgia-based company RMS Titanic Inc. (RMST), which owns salvage rights to the famous shipwreck, is organizing the expedition, which is scheduled to take place in May 2024.

However, the US Government has launched a legal challenge against the planned expedition, citing a federal law and an international agreement with the UK that regards the wreck as a hallowed gravesite.

The legal challenge has been launched in the US District Court in Norfolk, Virginia, which oversees matters regarding the Titanic.

The US Government states that entering the Titanics' hull is regulated by federal law and the international agreement with the UK. The Government has stated that the planned expedition may disturb artifacts and human remains located at the wreckage.




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Titan Submarine Tragedy: Human Remains Discovered 4 Months After Ship Imploded

The Coast Guard has recovered remaining debris, including presumed human remains, from the wreck site after the Titan imploded on a deep dive beneath the Atlantic Ocean's surface


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A photo showed the intact aft titanium endcap of the 22-foot (6.7-meter) vessel


Human remains have been found four months after the Titan submarine imploded on a dive down to the Titanic.


Hamish Harding, Shahzada Dawood and his teenage son Suleman, plus French explorer Paul-Henri Nargeole, Stockton Rush, the CEO of OceanGate, all died in the implosion. Recovery and transfer of remaining parts was completed last Wednesday, say the Coast Guard, and a photo showed the intact aft titanium endcap of the 22-foot (6.7-meter) vessel.

The Coast Guard has now recovered remaining debris, including presumed human remains, from the wreck site after the Titan imploded on a deep dive beneath the Atlantic Ocean's surface, officials said Tuesday.

Additional presumed human remains were carefully recovered from within Titan's debris and transported for analysis by U.S. medical professionals. The salvage mission conducted under an agreement with the U.S. Navy was a follow-up to initial recovery operations on the ocean floor roughly 1,600 feet (488 meters) away from the Titanic.

The Coast Guard previously said it recovered presumed human remains along with parts of the Titan after the debris field was located at a depth of 12,500 feet (3,800 meters). Investigators believe the Titan imploded as it made its descent into deep North Atlantic waters on June 18.



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