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Old 12-01-12, 22:02   #1
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Internet Privacy Act

The Internet Privacy Act is a non-existent and fictitious law cited by websites that conduct illegal activities in order to deter organizations that look to prosecute such activities. Networks which share music, films and software, for example, often display the fictitious act in an attempt to protect themselves from arrest by being able to claim entrapment in court. In the statement, websites claim that it prevents organizations which may be associated with anti-P2P or government organizations from entering the site or network as it would breach the terms of the act.
According to the statement which many sites display, it was signed by Bill Clinton in 1995, but in reality he never signed the act as it never existed. Using this and other such "disclaimers" would actually make it easier for such a site to be found via the major search engines.
The text notice on these sites are usually as follows, but can vary:

History of usage

The false act first began to be displayed during the late 1990s on many sites that engaged in illegal activities, such as the promotion and distribution of "knock-off" (counterfeit) materials. Over time, the paragraph was picked up and copied and pasted with the exception of a few minor variations to match the content of the containing website. An example is provided below:

If you are affiliated with any government, police, anti-piracy group or other related group or working for Adidas, Manolo Blahnik, Converse, Louis Vuitton, Chanel, Burberry, Hermes, Prada, Air Jordan, Nike, Timberland, Gucci, Cartier, Oakley either directly or indirectly, or any other related group, or were formally a worker, you CANNOT enter these web pages, links, nor access any of its files and you cannot view any of the HTML files. If in fact you are affiliated or were affiliated with the above said companies, by entering this site you are not agreeing to these terms and you are violating code 431.322.12 of the Internet Privacy Act signed by Bill Clinton in 1995 and that means that you CANNOT threaten our ISP(s) or any person(s) or company storing these files, and cannot prosecute any person(s) affiliated with this website.


Through the turn of the century, thousands of web, FTP, and other sites used the statement in an attempt to deter authorities. It is sometimes still seen in modern file sharing networks and protocols. Other reasons for it might have been to reassure the visiting public that their actions and data would be somehow protected.
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Thanks for the help, and your point is??? do you have or can you site any positive acts to help
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I thought my point was self evident, it is a warning that any sites using the defense (Internet Privacy Act)cited in your earlier post (Disclaimer), were actually deluding themselves if they thought this was an actual Legal defence from any Prosecution.

The (Internet Privacy Act)is a non-existent and fictitious law and I thought I would point this out if this was what you were basing your site's legal protection upon. My apologies if you have trouble seeing the point...
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I thought my point was self evident, it is a warning that any sites using the defense (Internet Privacy Act)cited in your earlier post (Disclaimer), were actually deluding themselves if they thought this was an actual Legal defence from any Prosecution.

The (Internet Privacy Act)is a non-existent and fictitious law and I thought I would point this out if this was what you were basing your site's legal protection upon. My apologies if you have trouble seeing the point...

Yes I understand and asked, do you have or can you site any positive acts to help? I would appreciate it and thanks for the help
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I'm afraid there is no real protection in these situations if the Authorities wish to pursue you for facilitating any forms of Copyright Infringement or Piracy...

Since my last post there has been a breaking story (shown below), where US Authorities have won a case to extradite a UK Student.

"Our Site" has decided to remove all Warez from our forum until the implications of this matter become clearer...It should be remembered whereas you host from Amsterdam and we host from Hong Kong, these details did not stop extradition even though the student was hosting from "off shore" as well, and his website did not store copyright material itself and merely directed users to other sites...I will let you know of any further developments.

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'Piracy' student Richard O'Dwyer loses extradition case


A Sheffield student can be extradited to the US to face copyright infringement allegations, a judge has ruled.
Richard O'Dwyer, 23, set up the TVShack website which US authorities say hosts links to pirated copyrighted films and television programmes.
The Sheffield Hallam University student lost his case in a hearing at Westminster Magistrates' Court.
If found guilty in a US court he could face up to five years in jail.

Mr O'Dwyer's lawyer, Ben Cooper, indicated during the hearing that he would appeal against the ruling.
Mr Cooper said the website did not store copyright material itself and merely directed users to other sites, making it similar to Google.
He also argued that his client, who would be the first British citizen to be extradited for such an offence, was being used as a "guinea pig" for copyright law in the US.

But District Judge Quentin Purdy ruled the extradition could go ahead.

Mr O'Dwyer's mother, Julia O'Dwyer, from Chesterfield, has described the moves by US authorities as "beyond belief" and described Britain's extradition treaty with the United States as "rotten".

Speaking before the hearing, Mr O'Dwyer said he was "surprised" when police officers from the UK and America seized equipment at his home in South Yorkshire in November 2010.

However, no criminal charges followed from the UK authorities.

The case was brought by the US Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency, which claims that the TVShack.net website earned "over $230,000 in advertising revenue" before US authorities obtained a warrant and seized the domain name in June 2010.

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This news has scared some British site owners into closing their sites. To the point where I have been asked whether I would be interested in purchasing one of these forums and domain and keep it running...Unfortunately, I believe these laws have the potential to be also used against Aussies...

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Thank u Rsole, the only reasons I chose NOT delete your thread is because
I welcome any offers of help and contributions from all members.

Allow me to explain why;

1. International law is quite clear about any site, not just Warex, FTA etc..

2. The FBI needs an agreement within any country, to take on, prosecute,
any site, or person that allows any site that endangers any business that affects,
or breaks any law,or provides any facilty about anything they supply, that breaks
the Laws of the USA, (much as they would like to, those pen pushers, are less astute than you or I, )

The FBI does NOT control the world (even though Edgar Hoover, (who set it up, and his partner),
would love others to suit & follow his dream.


3. The Server/Host and the other Private Protections I have paid for, for this site, cost me
more per month than the actual cost I show to members, that only shows what I
receive in donations every month. If those little pen pushers in the FBI, now
decide they want to take action against this site and close my server down,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

My staff are NOT just my staff, Rsole, they are my friends and they come on here
to help the members, such as yourself, without payment, because they want to
and, hopefully enjoy doing so.

4. The US and Hollywood do NOT control the world,,,,but the pain they cause affects
others thereafter ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

It really is a simple as that.


You mention others Site owners in the UK;

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has scared some British site owners into closing their sites
I really have no comment on that, except to reiterate what I have written before

However I actually started a legal action against Rupert Murdoch in the UK years ago
when he closed many small businesses supplying receivers for "SKY' before he
completely owned most of the shares for that and bought Bsky,,,whatever, but that
was crushed after his HUGE contribution to the prospective incoming political party

That is life eh?

However,,what goes around,,, etc. ,,,,,,and thank goodness that pub owner from the UK won his case in the European court about supplying fta football and sports in his pub... THAT is now a what one terms as a "Stated Case" and provides more help for others that decide to take a chance and fight.

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Just to update you..... after a couple of years fight, two UK pub owners won their court cases v Murdoch, in the European Court, about showing sports Premium Channels in their pubs

AND 4 others blocked the FBI, through, the "Higher Court" in Aussie, asking for more info to disclose the owners,,,,, they were denied
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The information I provided was intended to assist your site Ladybbird and was never meant as a personal attack upon yourself or your staff...I apologise if that is how it came across.
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The information I provided was intended to assist your site Ladybbird and was never meant as a personal attack upon yourself or your staff...I apologise if that is how it came across.
I realised that Rsole and I appreciated you letting me know, I have amended the original thread because of your info. I think the disclaimer now covers us,,,,I hope so anyway.

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I have a question, how do these so called everchanging laws effects FTPs.

I won't get into C/R laws as they all contradict themselves and in what part of the world you host your server.
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