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Pirate Megaupload User Data Negotiations Go Bust

Almost nine months have passed since Megaupload’s servers were raided by the U.S. Government yet after all this time there is no agreement on how former users can retrieve their files.

Meanwhile, Megaupload’s 1103 servers are gathering dust at Carpathia Hosting in the United States.


Behind the scenes representatives for Megaupload have been negotiating with the Department of Justice and other parties to allow the site’s former users to temporarily gain access to their files, but thus far without result.
After initial negotiations failed earlier this year, one of Megaupload’s users lost patience and decided to take action.
Helped by the EFF, small business owner Kyle Goodwin filed a motion demanding that the court find a workable solution for the return of his data, and that of other former Megaupload users.


However, Judge Liam O’Grady didn’t want to take a decision on the issue, and during a July hearing he ordered the various parties to start negotiating again.
Fast forward another two months and these negotiations have failed once more.

Mega Users Want Their data back




This means that Megaupload’s user data is still in limbo. Hoping to come to a solution, the EFF saw no other option than to go back to Judge O’Grady.


“Negotiations went nowhere, which is why we went back to ask the judge again for the return of user data,” EFF attorney Julie Samuels told TorrentFreak. But O’Grady appears to be taking his time and weeks have now gone by without an update in the case.
“We’re all waiting to hear from the judge. Until the court does something, our hands are unfortunately tied,” Samuels says.



According to Megaupload’s defense team, U.S. authorities are ultimately to blame for depriving former Megaupload users from accessing their files.



“By taking offline the entire Megaupload cloud storage site the US Attorneys Office has demonstrated that they favor the Hollywood Oligopoly over innocent consumers who lost access to their data,” Megaupload lawyer Ira Rothken told TorrentFreak.
“We believe the Government’s aggressive conduct violates due process,” Rothken adds.


Together with the EFF, Megaupload is now hoping that Judge O’Grady will come up with a quick and workable solution for the possible return of the user data. In addition, Megaupload is hoping that the Judge will dismiss the entire case against the cloud storage company.


“We are looking forward to the US Federal Court ruling on the consumer data access issue and Megaupload’s motion to dismiss,” says Rothken.
“The greater the delay the greater the injustice,” Megaupload’s lawyer adds.


Carpathia Hosting did not respond to our inquiries, but there is little doubt that they are in favor of a quick solution. The company currently pays $9,000 a day out of their own pockets to keep the Megaupload servers intact.
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Default Re: Megaupload User Data Negotiations Go Bust

This is again a sign that it is not about copyright in the sense of what it was originally intended to be for. It's a sign that the IP maximalists have captured the government offices that are in charge of overseeing public protections to the point that those protections are no longer honored.

The government has no mandate to seize innocents' property. But the turn about of fair play by law no longer functions. In this case the law is being willfully ignored.

I suggest that Carpathia should present a bill for the payment of the storage of the evidence in question to both those parties that can't agree as a means of providing pressure to actually agree to come up with a plan. When money becomes involved, especially large sums, you'd be surprised how fast agreements can be reached.
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Default Re: Megaupload User Data Negotiations Go Bust

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This is again a sign that it is not about copyright in the sense of what it was originally intended to be for. It's a sign that the IP maximalists have captured the government offices that are in charge of overseeing public protections to the point that those protections are no longer honored.

The government has no mandate to seize innocents' property. But the turn about of fair play by law no longer functions. In this case the law is being willfully ignored.

I suggest that Carpathia should present a bill for the payment of the storage of the evidence in question to both those parties that can't agree as a means of providing pressure to actually agree to come up with a plan. When money becomes involved, especially large sums, you'd be surprised how fast agreements can be reached.
Nothing will work cos these little pen pushers that enjoy their bit of power will never back down or admit they are wrong.
Just look at how many innocent folk in the US that are in jail, and even with certain good evidence that they didnt commit the crime, some DA's refuse to back down.
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Faults in our justice system lead to this type of behavior. Again what is known as regulatory capture is in full swing to go with it. When a crime becomes public knowledge there is this huge pressure to produce a criminal to be convicted of the crime. Anyone will do rather than getting the right one. You also have DAs that are looking to make examples as a way to bring their names to attention in hopes of political office.

The regulatory capture involves corporations putting into offices not elected their own ex-employees. Take your pick on this as an example. Entertainment putting into office their people to see laws get made in their favor. Big banking and Wall Street types into the SEC in charge of hunting down white collar crime financial wise which is part of the reason that the SEC has not sent bankers to jail but rather levy small fines with the allowance that those corporations don't have to admit criminal wrongdoing in the process. Those are only two of a multitude of examples.

Plus you have private prisons being run by corporations for profit. Corrections Corporation of America was willing to make all states in the nation a deal. We'll house your prisoners if you'll guarantee a 95% capacity. Needless to say where that goes.

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Default Re: Megaupload User Data Negotiations Go Bust

Despite the fact that a few big players are promoting cloud storage, this also proves one thing; cloud storage can’t be trusted.
You see what happens with the personal legal data, when a company like this one, goes down.
The other point is that one has got no guarantee about the privacy of the stored data.

The only conclusion can be, that it is better to use several storage methods (multiple media) at home.
Burn DVDs and use external hard disks or other media. If the data is valuable keep these media at different places.

For our purposes here, (misty) cloud storage is fine. Hi.Hi.
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