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Important MPAA: Piracy is NOT Theft After All !!!

DODD Changes His "Tune"

May 20, 2012, Torrent Freak

For decades the entertainment industry used the word “theft” to refer to piracy.
Most famous is probably the “You Wouldn’t Steal a Car” ad. But virtually all press releases of outfits such as the MPAA refer to stealing or theft.

All of a sudden, however, MPAA boss Chris Dodd is whistling a different tune.
After the SOPA revolt earlier this year the movie industry group realized they have to position themselves better.
“We’re going to have to be more subtle and consumer-oriented,” Dodd says.
“We’re on the wrong track if we describe this as thievery.”
Technically MPAA’s boss doesn’t say that piracy isn’t theft, but just that it’s bad PR to keep using the term.
The real problem with the theft metaphor is that it’s not only inaccurate, but also widening the gap between people’s norms and copyright law.

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Did the MPAA have a duh moment? Not likely. Since day one, all over the internet, it has been constantly brought up that making a copy of a song is not theft. All the copywrong gang has done with that knowledge has been to stick their fingers in their ears and holler na na na na.

The law does not view copying as theft either. The idea of theft goes back as far as there has been a law and before that, to tribal chieftains. Stealing and theft is when you physically take something, denying the owner of the use of his property.

As always, the idea that making a copy was theft had to be entered into law as a change. One that the copywrong gang pushed hard. Before that, copying was not illegal per say. It was only when you went to making money by selling those copies that it was illegal. But the majority of file sharing doesn't deal with money. How do you claim infringement and punitive damages without showing loss of income? You have to make first the false assumption that every down load is a lost sale. But that's not true as many new artists will tell you that file sharing is the new radio. It's how they get heard without having to sell their soul to the devil to do it.

What happened was they got the daffyination changed as to how the file infringers gained in relation to money. The basic alteration was that the copyright holder had not been paid and this was theft, not the actual making a copy, without profit.

It has been under this new and altered definition that the MPAA, the RIAA, and all the rest of the alphabet soup, has pushed theft. One of the major ways they look for is income to a site. Doesn't particularly matter how much as it matters proving any income. You see, if you are profiting from infringement it puts you in a whole 'nother class of activity in what laws apply. You and I know that ads on the net doesn't pay much. You can't expect ads only to pay for the servers. It's not enough. But it is enough to show profit in the strictest sense of the word for the lawyers.

They've known for years and years that copying isn't theft. They've also known for years and years they can't totally eliminate file sharing. All they can do is put a dent in it.

So what's new from the scum of the barrel outfits like the MPAA? That they lie? Or they change definitions of actions and words to suit them? Ha, wish I had a dollar for every time I've read that happen. Maybe I could afford some of those dirt cheap $30 Blueray discs they put movies on.
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Did the MPAA have a duh moment? Not likely. Since day one, all over the internet, it has been constantly brought up that making a copy of a song is not theft. All the copywrong gang has done with that knowledge has been to stick their fingers in their ears and holler na na na na.

The law does not view copying as theft either. The idea of theft goes back as far as there has been a law and before that, to tribal chieftains. Stealing and theft is when you physically take something, denying the owner of the use of his property.

As always, the idea that making a copy was theft had to be entered into law as a change. One that the copywrong gang pushed hard. Before that, copying was not illegal per say. It was only when you went to making money by selling those copies that it was illegal. But the majority of file sharing doesn't deal with money. How do you claim infringement and punitive damages without showing loss of income? You have to make first the false assumption that every down load is a lost sale. But that's not true as many new artists will tell you that file sharing is the new radio. It's how they get heard without having to sell their soul to the devil to do it.

What happened was they got the daffyination changed as to how the file infringers gained in relation to money. The basic alteration was that the copyright holder had not been paid and this was theft, not the actual making a copy, without profit.

It has been under this new and altered definition that the MPAA, the RIAA, and all the rest of the alphabet soup, has pushed theft. One of the major ways they look for is income to a site. Doesn't particularly matter how much as it matters proving any income. You see, if you are profiting from infringement it puts you in a whole 'nother class of activity in what laws apply. You and I know that ads on the net doesn't pay much. You can't expect ads only to pay for the servers. It's not enough. But it is enough to show profit in the strictest sense of the word for the lawyers.

They've known for years and years that copying isn't theft. They've also known for years and years they can't totally eliminate file sharing. All they can do is put a dent in it.

So what's new from the scum of the barrel outfits like the MPAA? That they lie? Or they change definitions of actions and words to suit them? Ha, wish I had a dollar for every time I've read that happen. Maybe I could afford some of those dirt cheap $30 Blueray discs they put movies on.

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More than 1, they are so DUH, that they dont even know about the adjustment to the laws that the US made to take down fta sites;;;;;;

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Default Re: MPAA: Piracy is NOT Theft After All !!!

The trick here is that banning the internet is the eventual outcome. One they don't want to actually take as it is viewed as the next great market place. A place that cuts expenses while giving access to the entire world in one package.

Only the internet is nothing without copying and pasting it's results in the browser. Without that function the internet doesn't work. The internet is one huge, giant, copy machine and it can't be different and work. Anytime you go to a site, containing copyrighted photos or anything else, to even view an object for sale, such as artwork, the browser must take a snapshot and reproduce it locally on your computer.

In trying to justify the copy/paste function, Isohunt was demanded by the court to reproduce user and search records, even though they didn't maintain logs, because the functions passed through RAM memory temporarily, even though those functions had not been written as a program to do so specifically for that purpose. The passage through RAM according to the lawyers at the time, represented a copy, even if only for 1/10ᵗʰˢ of a second.

Something else came out of Dodd's speech. The idea that they screwed up when they called it Piracy. Not long after that Disney came out with all these Pirate movies starring Johnny Depp. So instead of getting negative connotations, they got pride in doing it and accepting the label by the population. To say it another way, it backfired.

*edit* As long as I am editing, let me show you a new study out. One that says leaks and early releases to file sharing sites, improves sales. (I know that Ladybbird is already up on this as it's one of the sites that is visited in reporting the news here.)
https://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-piracy-boosts-music-sales-study-finds-120517/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
In essence the study claims that file sharing has a positive effect on sales, not a loss of income. It's a form of advertisement that costs the labels nothing. A fact they well know as the case of dajaz1.com with it's domain seizure by ICE turned out that the owner had email verification that the songs he put up were given to him by authorized agents of the music labels to generate hype over up coming albums being released by artists. It was being used by major labels as advertisement to sell new works by leaking songs ahead of the release date.
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