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Ladybbird · 28-04-12, 07:11

Posted: 26 Apr 2012 01:07 PM PDT

Australian police are involved in a massive piracy lawsuit. Software company Micro Focus is claiming that the police are making unauthorized use of its ViewNow software, which they use to access the COPS criminal intelligence database. In addition, it’s alleged that the police shared the proprietary software with third parties. Micro Focus is fighting the case in court and is demanding at least $10 million in damages.

The Aussie police are clearly not setting the right example when it comes to copyright infringement. In 2008 computers of the South Australian police force’s IT branch were found to contain hundreds of pirated movies.

There is, however, an even ongoing bigger case in which the New South Wales police are accused of massive software piracy involving its criminal intelligence database.

The software in question, ViewNow, is developed by the UK company Micro Focus. While the company licensed its software to the police in the past, it discovered nearly two years ago the police were using thousands of unauthorized copies.

Even worse, the police also shared the software with third parties such as the Ombudsman’s Office, the Department of Correctives Services and the Police Integrity Commission. All without permission from the software company.

In an attempt to get compensated for several years worth of mass piracy, Micro Focus has filed a lawsuit in which it’s demanding more than $10 million in damages. Micro Focus’ managing director Bruce Craig says they saw no other option than to sue, as they can’t go to the police.

“When someone pirates your software you think who am I gonna call, the police? In this case, they’re the pirates,” Craig comments on 7.30.

“This is potentially a crime that has to be handled as a civil matter because everybody’s got their hands dirty,” he added. “The victims can’t go to police – it’s the police who are doing the stealing.”

At the center of the legal battle is a dispute over the licenses for the ViewNow software. Micro Focus says the police had licenses to install ViewNow on up to 6,500 computers, but in fact more than 16,000 copies were installed. In addition, the police shared copies with other organizations without permission.

“The licenses were for police only. Yet police were out there handing out our software like confetti,” Craig says. “They did not pay for those extra licenses. It’s incredible. It shows an organization that’s completely out of control.”

The police on the other hand claim that they are not aware of any restrictions. Instead, they claim that they could use as many copies as they want according to their interpretation of the contract.

To make matters even worse, Micro Focus is now threatening a new lawsuit as they suspect that the police have replaced the ViewNow software with an alternative called NetManage Applet. This application also belongs to Micro Focus, and they have not licensed the police to use that without restrictions either.

Who’s right and who’s wrong will eventually be decided by the court, but there is already one losing party – the taxpayer. The police have already spent hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees, and the case has barely begun.

photostill · 28-04-12, 08:03

I have no idea what the punishment for willful infringement and illegal distribution of copyright is in Australia. As in most countries the punitive damages will be steep.

It will be interesting to see where this goes. It demonstrates one thing. Intellectual Property is an artificial state that goes against the grain of human nature. No amount of education will cure this. There is a fundamental disconnect between the law and culture.

All kids are taught at a very young age to share. This lesson and the lesson that not sharing is selfish is a pretty much worldwide lesson kids learn.

In this is the problem that the copywrong industry fights. It's a loosing battle that will never be won. The idea that it would like to stick in minds is that with out it, culture would not survive. On such lies is IP built.

Traveling mistrials were doing culture sharing long before the copywrong industry ever got going. They will still be around, long after they are gone. Only today instead of having performers do stage and song, we have them separate as plays and concerts.

pop · 28-04-12, 11:49

WOW!!

But knowing our corrupt legal system and what happens behind closed doors at the court is really something else, and it stinks to know end.

In anyway this will make it harder for the end user, But I do hope they all get sentenced like any one else would, I am stick of seeing our corrupt cops getting away with crimes they commit instead of putting innocent ppl behind bars, as I just saw it happen with my ex borders son.

Ladybbird · 29-04-12, 20:58

Hmmm That might help Kim.com from Megaupload in his legal case against the Kiwi cops, who knows.

photostill · 30-04-12, 00:12

Actually the judge in New Zealand is questioning if Kim DotCom will ever go to court given the highly irregular way it was done and the lack of diligence to what the law requires in the form of the proper procedures and paperwork.

Kim is rightlyfully teed because his business has been taken down, without legal follow through. By the way previous actions have been done, it is now likely that Kim will never be charged but will never get his property back either. He'll have to hire some really high priced lawyers to pull that one off and will spend years in the attempt.

Ladybbird · 30-04-12, 04:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by photostill

Actually the judge in New Zealand is questioning if Kim DotCom will ever go to court given the highly irregular way it was done and the lack of diligence to what the law requires in the form of the proper procedures and paperwork.

Kim is rightlyfully teed because his business has been taken down, without legal follow through. By the way previous actions have been done, it is now likely that Kim will never be charged but will never get his property back either. He'll have to hire some really high priced lawyers to pull that one off and will spend years in the attempt.

There is a thread in this section all about the comments of that Judge

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Ladybbird Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 47,626 Thanks: 27,642 Thanked 14,458 Times in 10,262 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 8	Australian Police Accused of Mass Software Piracy Posted: 26 Apr 2012 01:07 PM PDT Australian police are involved in a massive piracy lawsuit. Software company Micro Focus is claiming that the police are making unauthorized use of its ViewNow software, which they use to access the COPS criminal intelligence database. In addition, it’s alleged that the police shared the proprietary software with third parties. Micro Focus is fighting the case in court and is demanding at least $10 million in damages. The Aussie police are clearly not setting the right example when it comes to copyright infringement. In 2008 computers of the South Australian police force’s IT branch were found to contain hundreds of pirated movies. There is, however, an even ongoing bigger case in which the New South Wales police are accused of massive software piracy involving its criminal intelligence database. The software in question, ViewNow, is developed by the UK company Micro Focus. While the company licensed its software to the police in the past, it discovered nearly two years ago the police were using thousands of unauthorized copies. Even worse, the police also shared the software with third parties such as the Ombudsman’s Office, the Department of Correctives Services and the Police Integrity Commission. All without permission from the software company. In an attempt to get compensated for several years worth of mass piracy, Micro Focus has filed a lawsuit in which it’s demanding more than $10 million in damages. Micro Focus’ managing director Bruce Craig says they saw no other option than to sue, as they can’t go to the police. “When someone pirates your software you think who am I gonna call, the police? In this case, they’re the pirates,” Craig comments on 7.30. “This is potentially a crime that has to be handled as a civil matter because everybody’s got their hands dirty,” he added. “The victims can’t go to police – it’s the police who are doing the stealing.” At the center of the legal battle is a dispute over the licenses for the ViewNow software. Micro Focus says the police had licenses to install ViewNow on up to 6,500 computers, but in fact more than 16,000 copies were installed. In addition, the police shared copies with other organizations without permission. “The licenses were for police only. Yet police were out there handing out our software like confetti,” Craig says. “They did not pay for those extra licenses. It’s incredible. It shows an organization that’s completely out of control.” The police on the other hand claim that they are not aware of any restrictions. Instead, they claim that they could use as many copies as they want according to their interpretation of the contract. To make matters even worse, Micro Focus is now threatening a new lawsuit as they suspect that the police have replaced the ViewNow software with an alternative called NetManage Applet. This application also belongs to Micro Focus, and they have not licensed the police to use that without restrictions either. Who’s right and who’s wrong will eventually be decided by the court, but there is already one losing party – the taxpayer. The police have already spent hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees, and the case has barely begun. __________________ PUTIN TRUMP & Netanyahu Will Meet in HELL ..................*SHARKS are Closing in on TRUMP*.......................... *TRUMP WARNS; 'There'll Be a Bloodbath* If I Don't Get Elected'..MAGA - MyAssGotArrested...IT's COMING** PLEASE HELP THIS SITE..Click DONATE & Thanks to ALL Members of ... 1.. THIS SITE IS MORE THAN JUST WAREZ...& TO STOP SPAM-IF YOU WANT TO POST, YOUR FIRST POST MUST BE IN WELCOMES

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photostill The Enigma Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 9,977 Thanks: 3,009 Thanked 1,524 Times in 928 Posts	Re: Australian Police Accused of Mass Software Piracy I have no idea what the punishment for willful infringement and illegal distribution of copyright is in Australia. As in most countries the punitive damages will be steep. It will be interesting to see where this goes. It demonstrates one thing. Intellectual Property is an artificial state that goes against the grain of human nature. No amount of education will cure this. There is a fundamental disconnect between the law and culture. All kids are taught at a very young age to share. This lesson and the lesson that not sharing is selfish is a pretty much worldwide lesson kids learn. In this is the problem that the copywrong industry fights. It's a loosing battle that will never be won. The idea that it would like to stick in minds is that with out it, culture would not survive. On such lies is IP built. Traveling mistrials were doing culture sharing long before the copywrong industry ever got going. They will still be around, long after they are gone. Only today instead of having performers do stage and song, we have them separate as plays and concerts. __________________ You can help this site, by clicking on the link below to buy a Premium Account. & Thank you for helping us. Click;

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pop Official Site Mascot/Moderator Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 1,176 Thanks: 2,013 Thanked 1,002 Times in 636 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	Re: Australian Police Accused of Mass Software Piracy WOW!! But knowing our corrupt legal system and what happens behind closed doors at the court is really something else, and it stinks to know end. In anyway this will make it harder for the end user, But I do hope they all get sentenced like any one else would, I am stick of seeing our corrupt cops getting away with crimes they commit instead of putting innocent ppl behind bars, as I just saw it happen with my ex borders son.

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Ladybbird Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 47,626 Thanks: 27,642 Thanked 14,458 Times in 10,262 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 8	Re: Australian Police Accused of Mass Software Piracy Hmmm That might help Kim.com from Megaupload in his legal case against the Kiwi cops, who knows. __________________ PUTIN TRUMP & Netanyahu Will Meet in HELL ..................*SHARKS are Closing in on TRUMP*.......................... *TRUMP WARNS; 'There'll Be a Bloodbath* If I Don't Get Elected'..MAGA - MyAssGotArrested...IT's COMING** PLEASE HELP THIS SITE..Click DONATE & Thanks to ALL Members of ... 1.. THIS SITE IS MORE THAN JUST WAREZ...& TO STOP SPAM-IF YOU WANT TO POST, YOUR FIRST POST MUST BE IN WELCOMES

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photostill The Enigma Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 9,977 Thanks: 3,009 Thanked 1,524 Times in 928 Posts	Re: Australian Police Accused of Mass Software Piracy Actually the judge in New Zealand is questioning if Kim DotCom will ever go to court given the highly irregular way it was done and the lack of diligence to what the law requires in the form of the proper procedures and paperwork. Kim is rightlyfully teed because his business has been taken down, without legal follow through. By the way previous actions have been done, it is now likely that Kim will never be charged but will never get his property back either. He'll have to hire some really high priced lawyers to pull that one off and will spend years in the attempt. __________________ You can help this site, by clicking on the link below to buy a Premium Account. & Thank you for helping us. Click;

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